Lawdwaz

Truck Race tonight, 7:30pm on Fox Sports One. I wouldn't miss it for the world........................................................................

Mike, did you see this: http://huntingny.com/forums/topic/21641-bounty-on-them-yet/

Here is the response I got........... Thank you for submitting a comment on the Draft Management Plan for Mute Swans in NY State. We are reviewing all of the input received and we will post a response on the DEC website, after the comment period closes, to each of the key issues identified.

I agree shawn. But how is the grouping at 75-100 yards?

Typical? I don't think so. I'd love to meet some of the guys on here at a archery shoot and watch them bang away from 75-100 yards on a McKenzie deer target. Who wants to belly up? IIRC, the only one that even came close to saying he is capable is Carbonelement. Here is a post he made last March.................... QUOTE: i don't really see the difference between crossbows and bows. I am 100% compound and stick bow hunter, but I do own a crossbow(never shot a deer with it). I can shoot my compound out to 50 yds all day with 2-3 inch groups. and don't tell me there is not a bow hunter here that hasn't missed a shot. With a reg bow u can nock another arrow and most times get another crack at a deer....good luck doing that with n Xbow. I wish they would spend more time going after poachers than debating between allowing xbows or not. And I now n days i would discard muzzle loaders as a primitive weapon. you can kill at 100+ yds all day....that is a different level IMO. I can honestly say in all my years of hunting 90% have been under 25 yds, I dont think an xbow will make too much of a difference in archery season.I have killed deer with a gun but nothing come close to the thrill of bow hunting. ______________________________________________________________________________ Note the part he mentioned he could "shoot his compound all day at 50 yards with 2-3" groups" That is great shooting, on a bale or a deer target. How about 75-100 yards? How are those groups then, on a live breathing wired animal?

Biz said 75-100 yard shots were fine. Do you agree? That is what the lit my fire on this. Do you think a guy who has NEVER shot a deer in his life with archery equipment should be making statements like that and not be called out? So, do you condone 75-100 yard shot on game? I don't and I have enough years experience to say it, confidently too.

Wrong. You kept it up, posting BS links and THEN slowly reducing your yardage. That is why it went the direction it did. Admit it.

Have you ever shot an arrow at a 75 yard target? So, you think that all you have to do is put in the practice time and be able to hit the target each and every time? Experience trumps all................

Carbondouche.........I certainly am not bragging about the amount of deer, its about experience. How many deer in NYS have you killed from 75-100 yards? That is what the bottom line is. The guy (Biz) hasn't killed a goddamned deer ever in his life with a bow and only a handful with a gun. Do you think he should be giving advice on shooting anything but suction cup tipped arrows at a donkey picture on his bedroom door in the basement? How about you King Kong Carbonelement, you killing at 75-100 yards shots with your He-Man Rig?

RRRrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmm!!!!!

EXACTLY. What do you think you'll do at 75 (or is it 68, or is that a little puff of wind or did the deer just react to a squirrel and twitch?) or a million other things that can make that 75 yard shot a heart breaker for you and worse than that cause a deer to die a slow, painful death and never be recovered. Go back up a couple posts, print off Doc's classic response and frame it. Then, just STFU and take some of this in from people that have experienced it.

How many of those "hundreds of liars" are going to tell you how many animals they wounded and lost while shooting 75-100 yards? When you get a couple (or even ONE) deer down with a bow (vertical or not) let me know how it went. Then you can dispense all the advice you want. Heck, all you have to do is practice for a day or two.................................

It got its abdomen opened by the fence in the background............................? Heck if I know!

Now I think your just pushing my buttons.................... He's a scenario for you; dad and the "Mighty Hunter" walk up to 10' and dump an arrow into the vittles (yea, I know) then they walk back to 75 yards and shoot one into the woods. Walk up to the deer dummy and say "wow, what a shot" Plausible? How long have you been scouring the 'net for this stuff? Don't you have a fiancée to snuggle with.......................................??

ONCE AGAIN..................................NOT 75 OR 100 YARDS. You keep digging your hole, I'll keep this up.................

No way..............one Biloxi will get 'er done.

Fort Erie is loaded with fish........ It's been many years since I hit the Canadian ballet, like maybe 25 or so? Honestly, since I met my wife I haven't gone. She never said anything either way but I have no interest in it...............kind of like Face Book. I was a member there for a few months when I helped set up my 30 year graduation from high school. Then, I deleted my membership as I could only foresee troubles. No sense in rekindling any old relationships or starting new. Sorry for the derail OP 75-100 yards, what are you NUTS? Oh yea, per the original question; I'll take my shots (when broadside) tight to the shoulder, not high nor low, dead center.

Dammit Pygmy, I'm buying you a camera. That sounds like a blast. Any other boats out? Do you fillet them or gut, chop and lop?

Yea but.....................who knows when they will loose their crowns? Could be the night before he (or she!) goes looking............... Like the Lotto................."Hey, you never know"

WTF do you want to go Toronto for anyway?

JHC, I wouldn't even waste a finger stroke to click on that horse st link.

Absolutely. If you bring a gun, you'll have to leave it with me unless you want to mess with the border hassle............... You want a fish fry too? (I'm all out of ribs)

Personally I'd take Big Green over Winchester if I had a choice.

OK, I'll say it again. How often have you shot at a TARGET at 300-500 yards? How high do you hold at 465 yards, just a little? Good luck with that shot............................. When you come up to Buffalo for that Friday fish fry we'll go to the range. I can shoot 300 yards at the club I belong to (Niagara County Sportsmans) and 500 yards at my buddies in the Finger Lakes. We can do some banging away, you'll be humbled. (Not by me, the range will do that) I'm done, have a good night.

I'll hopefully be watching it this Sunday. You? They just mentioned on the TV (first race of the Budweiser Duel races for tonight) that LAST place pays $250,000 Not to shabby for last place!! Gooooooo Danica.