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1. yes. You get what you pay for though. There are pros and cons to pop up blinds. You mentioned some of the pros, but in addition they also obviously they conceal movement. Also they do restrict some shots and they should be set up in advance and left there for the season. Also you should wear all black from top up if hunting in a blind so you're not silhouetted inside. 2. yes and no. I've had best results with mock scrapes and the occasional drag. any brand will do. I would not consider these similar to a corn spreader or "hunt them". They can attract deer though. You may have better luck with food plots if you're looking to hunt "over something" versus hunting the rut and/or runs. 3.you can stink like a goat if the wind is right. Not much of it is overkill and does increase your odds, especially during bow season. You can spend under $20 with some decent hair/body soap, deodorant, detergent, some field spray and then you can go above and beyond and get some scent-lok. Again most any brand will do. Best thing to do is just hang your clothes outside for some time. Don't add coverup scents (if you add pine and don't hunt near pine it'll be foreign. If you add apples and don't hunt near apples it'll be foreign) They sell combo packs at dicks that'll have everything you need.I even have lip-balm and toothpaste.... but that's probably overkill. Honestly you don't even really need camo. These things do increase your odds, none are necessary though. 4. Trails, scrapes, rubs. Get a cheap cam and stick it near an old apple tree, oak, hickory, trail or something where deer might be.
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incorrect. if you do not shoot a buck with your regular season (shotgun) tag, you can use that during late season. I'm too lazy to post the link, but it's on the dec's website. yes. http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/8310.html Regular and Special Season (Bow/Muzzleloading) and Tags Q: I need to put in for my vacation time at work. What are the dates for next year's deer season? A: See Future Big Game Hunting Seasons. Q: May I shoot more than one deer in a day if I have the proper tags? A: Yes, as long as you have the proper tags you may shoot more than one deer in a day. Q: Which deer tags can I use during the first four days of the Northern Zone Bowhunting Season (September 27-30)? A: Since the first four days of the Northern Zone Bowhunting Season are part of the previous license year, you must have a valid license, bowhunting privilege and an unfilled tag from the previous license year to hunt during this period. Any unfilled Bow/Muzzleloading either-sex deer tag, Bow/Muzzleloading antlerless deer tag, or Regular Season tag (now valid for deer of either sex) from the previous license year is valid for use during this 4 day period. Deer Management Permits are not valid during this 4 day period. Q: May I use my Bow/Muzzleloading tags (either-sex and antlerless tags) during the Regular Season? A: No. Bow/Muzzleloading tags are only valid during the special bowhunting and muzzleloading seasons depending on which privileges you purchased. Bow/Muzzleloading tags are not valid during the Regular Seasons, except in Westchester and Suffolk Counties or by junior archers hunting with a bow during the regular seasons. Q: May I use my Regular Season deer tag during the special seasons? A: Your Regular Season deer tag cannot be used in the Early Bowhunting* or Early Muzzleloading seasons. It can only be used in the Regular Deer Seasons in the Northern and Southern Zones to take a buck. Except, the Regular Season deer tag is valid for deer of either sex in Westchester & Suffolk counties, in areas restricted to bowhunting only (WMUs 4J and 8C), and during the late seasons with the appropriate bow or muzzleloading privileges. During the late seasons, the Regular Season deer tag is valid for deer of either sex. * Your previous year's unused regular season deer carcass tag, accompanied by your previous year's bow privilege, can be used from September 27-30 during the Northern Zone Bowhunting Deer Season and is valid for deer of either sex during this period. Q: Why are bowhunters not allowed to use the regular deer tag during the early Bowhunting Season? A: The simple reason is as a measure of fairness. Adult bucks are a limited resource, and many hunters go multiple seasons before successfully harvesting a buck. To allow bowhunters the opportunity to harvest two bucks prior to the opening of the gun season would be to provide bowhunters an unfair advantage. Q: Can I use my antlerless Bow/Muzzleloading tag in a unit where the muzzleloader hunting regulations specify only antlered deer can be taken? A: No. You may only shoot deer that can legally be taken in the unit in which you are hunting. The individual unit regulations and tag requirements must both be satisfied and dictate what may be taken during the muzzleloading seasons.
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Climbing sticks/separate sections/screw in steps?
Five Seasons replied to nybuckboy's topic in Deer Hunting
we still generally use screw ins for the last few steps so that you can "climb into" the stand easier. Also we've had to custom make some straps for those larger trunks where the strap does not fit all the way around. dicks usually has some good sales on the 20' sticks (4' sections). -
what a joke... I haven't found anything decent used anyhow. Lot of wwII guns only haha.
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haven't shot a doe in many years as i've been fortunate to take at least 1 buck. Between my father and myself we're sharing between 4.5 people so we generally try to at least put 2 in the fridge. 2 years ago we put in 3 big bucks and ended up spending a bunch of money at Costanza's. Although for the first time my wife and I ran out in late july after shooting 2 myself last year. I think the wife and I are just eating more... plus they were both great eating. Might smoke a dole with the MZ this year.
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yeah I think I'm conceding this year. Just wondering what to look for if they do pop up used. Most of my stands are bow stands anyhow and my browning is still more than capable. btw, can you still buy used guns in this state from private individuals?
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people break the law everyday. So I'm going to just trespass on my neighbors property in the summer, jack some deer from him at night and sell the velvet to some crazy Asians.
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still shopping for a good used deal. not a tone of extra cash right now as I also just bought a glock. Problem is that with the some counties now legalizing rifles for deer there's not a whole lot of deals to be had.
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actually she said most of them brought their own bow and could shoot well, but I do not disagree with that Phade.
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I am a very opinionated a-hole. no argument there. I SAID PERSONAL ATTACK. find one. just one. Not where I argued with someone, but called them a name. anyone can shoot at. how often does he successfully and cleanly take the deer?
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the 535 is a cheap gun. it's marketed that way. it's still a great gun, but that's why they make the 835. agreed benelli's are great bird guns.
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my wife is taking hers right now. I'm not sure she will ever be able to shoot a deer, but is interested in turkey and duck. I agree that I enjoy the "sacred time" but would never be upset if she got real into it. Although we'd need to find a babysitter to start at 5am all that said I don't dual hunt, so she'd be in a blind somewhere near me...
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your jeep or trespassers?
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or how many never even start? Curious; why did they stop?
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re-read. i never called anyone a slob. unethical is always a relative term right? I guess I've just seen my fair share of wounded deer (gun and bow). One forever sticks in my mind. Taking my dogs for a hike late January and came out into a field. The 2 dogs took off after a deer. I quickly realized they were going to catch this monster of a deer who was clearly a buck without his antlers. And of course when they did they hadn't a clue what to do because they'd never caught up to one before. It was then that I saw him running with one front leg swaying in the wind. Saddened me as I assume he was also a trophy buck that year, and for that matter just to see an animal suffer is even worse. It could vary well have been a standing broadside shot that ended up being poor. But I just hate to see deer wounded. We all realize that wounding deer is always possible even with the best shots from the best hunters. But I've said it before in regards to archery. Going into the woods without the knowledge and skill and wounding deer is not ok in my book. I feel stronger about that then any subject we've discussed. I'd love hunter numbers to increase, but not if those hunters do not take the sport serious enough to respect the life of an amazing animal. I'd rather them not be in the woods at all, even if the "drop in license sales" hurts the sport I love so much.
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what was my negative qualifier? to this day i've never given a single personal attack, although i've received many. Just trying to figure out your stance. back on topic, I do not view multiple shots as flailing away, but I believe that many times multiple shots (really 3 or more) is someone shooting a very low percentage shot at a running deer and possibly doing nothing but wasting money or meat. 2 shots is generally not a big deal. And when I'm sitting during gun and hear the occasional 3 or 4 shot bursts, followed sometimes by another 3 or 4 I can't help but picture 2 guys or more in a field "flailing away". There are times (like in your case) that it may be perfectly safe and ethical, but I would venture to guess more often then not the first few shots should have probably never occurred. It's all just my take. I'm not saying I am right or that other hunters are wrong. this is a forum. we discuss. many things we discuss are controversial. if they were not the site would be kind of boring would it the only thing there, and it's very minor, but as the deer is running, generally you're moving your barrel to line up with the deer. As your target moves, so does your backstop and chances are you're not focusing on that. And again, very minor because if you know your land than it's generally not a safety issue.
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my wife's taking hers right now. Almost 80 people she said. lots of youth and she was even surprised at how many girls were there. I think we're doing better as a sport then some people think at reaching the youth. Of course we can do better though. but i agree that i wouldn't take any statement from an instructor as fact until it's in the books. a little scary they're so out of the loop and potentially setting up new hunters for fines and penalties.
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I'm not the first person in this thread to mention safety. For the 3rd and final time it's all case dependent. If you know your land and area and are confident that firiing multiple shots at a running deer will not result in any stray bullets hitting a building or god forbid another person then safety is not the problem. If you're on public land or in an area surrounded by other land owners (and especially if rifle hunting) then flailing away is a little dangerous in my opinion. Do you disagree? Again, I'm not sure why it appears you're condoning this other than that you don't like me.
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If that's how you interpreted it, then sorry. There is nothing illegal about it, I simply just question the ethics and safety of it, and again it depends on the situation of the running deer. However, I must say I'm astounded with the number of people ok with shooting at SPRINTING deer at 200 yards. Maybe some of you should retake your hunter safety course, or perhaps it's a case of "i don't like belo so i'm just going to take whatever side he's not on, or if I'm on his side I wont back him up".
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i've always just done the grinding during butchering and froze the ground. everythings all messy and dirty anyhow... haha.
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tough to hear. safety should always be our first priority and if at all possible when hanging stands try to get someone to go with you and give you a hand.
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how do you like the red zones? if i didn't just buy arrows I would have loved to try them out
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I hate the weasel answer I'm about to give, but I think it depends. How fast is the deer moving, do you have to shoot through sapplings/trees/brush, how much time do you have to calm and recoup from your first shot to take another shot (several hundreds yards of open field) are you in a stand shooting free or shooting from a bipod or laying prone? I'm not against taking tough shots if the circumstances are right. I'm against just flailing away at running deer. I'm not sure if you're trying to bait me, discussing the subject because it's an interesting one or what...
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a yote and a deer are different creatures. A poor shot at a yote is far more likely to kill than a poor shot at a deer. But thanks for name calling, you've shown your true colors. I'm a gun hunter too bud. I've shot some real nice deer with my browning. I do not shoot at SPRINTING (go back and read his post) deer at 200 yards. It's not a matter of skill. it's odds, safety and me not wanting to wound the animal. keep shootin' and you can compensate? I've missed once my very first year gun hunting at 16. Since I've only ever needed one shot. That's skill, not hoping to hit by unloading your gun. interesting question. Generally in the areas I hunt (hardwoods or thick stuff) I do not get another shot. In a field, you can generally tell when an animals been hit, but if you get a safe followup shot then there's not a big deal with another shot. agreed your english is fantastic
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post it up man. I'm sure you're once again referencing what my neighbor did as something unethical I have done. But yeah... I'm the one destroying deer and not using the meat right? what a joke.