Oh yeah, they’re useless in creeks too. We have about a mile drag outa one spot that took forever with two guys. 200lb 8pt thought we both were gonna fall over dead.
Bring something to eat, warms you up. Hot beverage. Bibs not pants. I like my alpaca socks with thin socks underneath. Won’t sit still in real cold temps and will move spot to spot for a few hours each.
I think we’re having another trickle rut, I’ve been seeing for does followed since the 21st of October. No intense chasing just bucks following always behind them.
I’ve already got all the venison I need for this year with the 5 bow deer I’ve gotten between pa,ny. However I know a few good families that will take a deer and I fully plan on getting them some during gun. Got 2 dmp and my buck tag left for ny and a buck and doe tag in pa. I won’t shoot a small buck though.