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  1. virgil
    Global warming? Now you're really gonna piss off the conservatives.
  2. virgil

    shootings

    virgil replied to G-Man's topic in General Chit Chat

    The whole point of this is, it is not guns,or any other device that can be used to kill (sticks and stones kill as well) it is the uncontrollable human mind that is the problem...... so all that is left is for an individual to learn to defend ones self/other thru legal means The sick mind provides the intent or the motive. The weapon provides the means. Your argument ignores the fact that without the means (the weapon), there is no crime/tragedy. You choose to disregard the role of the weapon because it suits your personal agenda.
  3. virgil
    Last I knew a shotgun was a multipurpose firearm, as is a semi-auto rifle. Same as a kitchen knife can be used for slicing meat , or slicing throats. Yes, we all understand that almost any object could potentially be used to commit a crime- this is a lame argument. And yes, a shotgun is a multipurpose firearm(and one was left in the trunk of the killer's car while he made sure to carry the AR). A semi-auto rifle's sole purpose is killing- quickly and efficiently.
  4. virgil
    What is your point in posting those charts? Are you trying to point out that the most frequently used weapon in violent crimes is the handgun? How are those statistics relevant to this discussion?
  5. virgil
    National statistics. See post #47 What are those statistics from? The chart doesn't even have a title.
  6. virgil
    Also I've never read anything about considerable training, I read that she attended a rifle range. period. Maybe you're right. Luckily, the current laws don't require any training or competence in the use of these weapons before purchasing them.
  7. virgil
    What statistics are you referring to? I'm trying to understand you- are you really suggesting a ban on shotguns? Or are you just floating the idea because you know that it could never happen?
  8. virgil
    Combat???? Is that what this was??? Or, did you mistakenly refer to what that weapon is intended for?? As far as your question, all of the reports that I've heard have stated that the shooter and his mother had considerable training in handling these guns.
  9. virgil
    Come on Culver. As sick as the shooter was, he obviously knew guns. If, as you stated, the shotgun is so much more capable of mass destruction, which was his intent- why did he choose the bushmaster instead. Honestly, you're deflecting. You're trying to put the shotgun in focus because you know that more people own shotguns than assault rifles and you think that there will be a bigger outcry from gun owners if the anti's attack shotguns, right?
  10. virgil
    Culver, you keep making the same point about shotguns. But, i don't recall shotguns being used in any of the recent mass shootings- I could be wrong about that. I just don't understand where you're going with this argument. Honestly, it sounds like another attempt to avoid a serious discussion.
  11. virgil
    Well said????? Are you serious??? 'the greater tragedy' than the murder of 20 innocent children would be a reduction in gun rights???? Why, because gun ownership is a 'god given right'??? Are you serious? What about the right to LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness??? If this letter were sent and made public, it would further outrage the public. This is exactly the type of thinking that causes the general public to think that all gun owners are whackjobs.
  12. virgil
    What is needed in a restriction that will not infringe on the law abiding citizen but will make it hard for the crackhead sleeping in the corner. If I knew what that restriction is, I'd run for office. Unfortunately I don't. I just think one is needed. If you were running for office and even suggested addressing the issue, the NRA would do everything in their power to keep you out of office.
  13. virgil
    What country planet are you living in on?
  14. virgil
    I hear you- and I think it's important that the general public see that not all gun owners and sportsmen are fanatics as well. When the public sees a group that's opposed to any and all compromise of their 'right to bear arms', even when it infringes or threatens others right to 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness', it makes it easier to categorize us all as whackos.
  15. virgil
    Well done Sogaard.
  16. virgil
    Steve- when are you gonna learn that you're just pissing in the wind here? You can't reason with extremism and fanaticism. Your points are falling on deaf ears. By the way, another example of how strict gun laws have had a dramatic effect on violent crime rates is in Australia. I stayed out of these threads for as long as I could and now I know I will regret jumping in.
  17. virgil
    That's awesome. Just ordered two sets. They usually go for $199. Thanks for the tip.
  18. virgil
    Couldn't agree more. Also sucks duck hunting in fog and no wind.
  19. virgil
    Understood.
  20. virgil
    Geez Culver, is that the best you can do?
  21. virgil
    I knew this thread would get the wingnuts going.
  22. virgil

    Done yet?

    virgil replied to Doc's topic in General Hunting

    Heading upstate Thursday for a 3 day weekend with the ML.
  23. virgil
    Now let's see how long it takes before people realize that The Onion is satire.
  24. virgil
    I have the TC Omega with the thumbhole stock. I love it. It's fun to shoot and was dead on right out of the box.
  25. virgil
    High fence operations are a disgrace to sportsmen. This is not hunting- it's somewhere between 'slaughtering' and target shooting. Makes us all look bad. And, I think someone brought up a good point about these places being responsible for escapee animals that have had serious negative impact on the surrounding areas.
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