Very true.. my cameras are showing a greater than 10 to 1 doe to buck ratio on this farm.. All the bucks so far are 1 1/2 or less... Telling me the other people hunting are shooting their "buck" and leaving... stupid... He lets us hunt to control the deer #'s, if they want meat, shoot a doe or 3 and let the young bucks grow.. I think this year will be a record doe kill for me if I can help it.. I'm hoping to get 2 more crop damamger permits after this weekend, then the two DMP tags he will give me during the season.. plus the archery tags.... Now if that big 10 shows up again.. I'll gladly tag him with my buck tag... ;-)