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Managed differently. I thought that was clear. Trying to picture a "pretty kill". Is that where a predator teases an animal mercilessly for being overweight until the animal quietly takes his own life? Imagine if one got a hold of a kid? Is that how we're managing wildlife now? Okay. Imagine if one did get a hold of a kid but decided to raise and train him instead - "but, I'll most likely kill you in the morning" - and that kid eventually becomes the Dread Pirate Roberts. Good or bad? That's probably the solution needed. But it has to work for everyone.

I wouldn't think so as they aren't like other animals. Politics or otherwise. I don't really have a point other than I like wolves, respect ranchers and think it's a complicated issue.

In that case, the grizzlies opinion really doesn't matter. Are wolves attacking kids? I didn't know that. In order to hunt something you have to have a viable and sustainable population. If we're there, great. If not, then there's work to do.

Without sounding like too much an of ogre, I don't care that much about someone's pet that was killed by a wild animal. Livestock is different but there are ways to mitigate the damage. My point was that all land and wildlife is managed to some extent. Yes. How do grizzlies feel about wolf introduction? Love to know that.

Or Dudley Do-Right. Wait ... what? https://www.buzzfeed.com/tanyachen/delightful-facts-about-canada

I'd like to see some research papers but I think the takeaway is that certain aspects of the ecosystem bounced back in unexpected ways and to a degree that was unimagined. More work needs to be done. Here's a quote from the USA article: Despite all the disagreement, most ecologists say removing predators today would be a mistake. "The way ecosystems put themselves back together after such a problem is still something that scientists are trying to understand," Ripple said. "The lesson is let’s not let things get as bad as they did with 70 years without wolves." Works for me.

Could you point me in the right direction? Most I find suggest a positive trophic cascade effect of wolf introduction: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=wolf+reintroduction+yellowstone&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart Isn't it all managed? I like wolves. I respect farmers. It's a complicated issue that will require a nuanced solution. And there will be compromise on both sides. Get busy figuring it out. I look at those anti-wolf videos the same way I look at peta videos ... with a sceptical eye. The first video showcases a rancher who runs 1200 cattle on 20,000 private acres (not sure if his or others) and has grazing rights to 130,000 public acres. So we have to manage wildlife on those 130,000 public acres based on his wants, needs or losses? Sorry, not seeing that.

I don’t have a plan. Do I need one to comment?

Can I be in favour of all? Wolves, ranchers, elk, hunters, coyotes, F&G scientists, beavers, hikers, willows, hippies, and trout?

Yes, never farmed. Or appreciate the amount of work involved. And I haven't looked into this past these videos and reading about the Yellowstone reintroduction that literally changed the ecosystem for the positive: wolves meant a more mobile elk which couldn't over browse which lead to more willows, aspen and cottonwood and therefore more beavers, and better bird and trout habitat. So, no to that special interest group but yes to this one?

So it's a complicated issue that will require a complicated and compromised solution. Okay. Personally, I like wolves. I'd rather have wolves and compensate ranchers for livestock loss than have a few more cows/sheep/dogs and no wolves at all.

Very nice.

My guy is a Ukrainian immigrant who tends his bees in shorts while smoking a cigar. I guess if you’re into honey collecting then maybe it gets expensive. But if the goal is pollination, the colony cost him $130 and he builds the hives which look pretty rudimentary. $500 should get you started.

My cabin neighbour keeps a dozen hives on the roof of his cabin. Since he’s in the deep woods and has no water they come to my ponds, flowers and clover. Haven’t seen many yet but expect them to show up soon. We have a good deal - I cut the grass in front of his property and he gives me a few litres of honey each year. Fletch, if you have that many trees you may want to start a small hive. Doesn’t seem that expensive or difficult.

56. Grew up in the city and spent my career in cities. Though I took to a weekend outdoor life of climbing and hiking, hunting was something those other guys did and I was probably an anti in my 20's. There was one guy in my high school that hunted ducks but I thought he was weird. Putting it off for so long is one thing (of many many many things in life) I regret.

I remember that you could order a McD burger, fries and pop and get change back from a dollar. Damn, I’m old.

Thanks, but at that point I might as well carry on and cross the border. Oh, and Montreal bagels, butter tarts and nanaimo bars.

What is this Brunners you speak of?

I have no idea what the stuff they call "Canadian Bacon" is here but no self-respecting Canadian would eat it. Peameal bacon seared in cast iron and stacked on a fresh kaiser roll with honey mustard is a final meal. "Okay, Warden. I'm ready."

I just drove back from Canada and grabbed a bottle of Crown Reserve at the border. (I think just for the felt bag.) Don't forget the ketchup potato chips, peameal bacon, Smarties, Coffee Crisp and Mott's Clamato Juice.

Masterpiece of a film. That wedding sequence is one of the best sequences ever shot. Little trivia. That was John Cazale’s (Stan) last film. He had cancer but Streep (his girlfriend) insisted they use him or she would walk. He never saw it finished. Cazale appeared in only five films and each was nominated for a Best Picture Academy Award: Godfather 1and 2; Dog Day Afternoon; The Conversation; and The Deerhunter.

He came up in another thread. Iron Eyes Cody or Espera Oscar de Corti. Thanks to Cody and Woodsy I never threw another piece of garbage on the ground.

I think some of these guys get paid by the word.

Damn, Stay. I was really expecting one of these guys to burn down their house trying to prove you can’t light a 6”x6” beam.

If that doesn’t work nuke the entire site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure. I’ve had good success with those one way wire tunnels.