stubborn1VT

They are Case's without the bells and whistles. My brother has a couple. One he loves, and the other he hates. These are 100+ horse farm tractors. I don't have much insight into the smaller ones. For 40HP and below I am sold on Kubota.

I used to drink Old English 40's, but got turned on to Crazy Horse malt liquor. It had a much more robust flavor. Those were the days.

I suddenly may be going on a fishing vacation. Time to stock up on Sonars?

The shape is right for a Falcon, but I agree. My uncle had about 9 of them. My vote is for some flavor of Pontiac.

Most white clovers are perennial. They also blossom throughout the growing season. If you mow it, it will blossom again. I would mow it to help control any weeds or grasses. Other than that, there isn't much of a right or wrong time to mow white clover IMO.

I wouldn't worry about shade. If it is sunny enough to grow two foot tall weeds, then sunlight shouldn't be an issue.

Good info, but only using Sonars sounds like some kind of punishment!

Sure is a pretty pattern on the shell. They are cool to see. I've seen a number of snappers crossing the road, but no box turtles. Thanks for sharing the pic.

I have done plots up to 1/3rd acre with a Cub Cadet walk-behind. It's work. They do a decent enough job in the woods, but can be a PITA in heavy sod or on wet ground. My buddy did 1.5 acres with a borrowed tiller the last 2 years. He beat the snot out that poor machine. He shot a real nice 10 point off the edge of one of his plots last bow season. This year he cut access trails so he could use a tractor. Last year I did a chicory and clover plot with a leaf rake, blue tarp, a lighter, and a bag spreader. This year I am going to try to plant a strip in the woods by dragging the big debris off with my tractor and box scraper. I will put the teeth down on the box scraper and get rid of the bigger sticks and rotten wood. Then I will go over it with the 4 wheeler and chain harrow. Seed it, roll it, and wait for rain. At least that's the theory...

I had the same question. IMO a 15"-18" walleye is one of the best eating fish that swims. I'd keep one that size over a bigger specimen any day.

No pics yet. The toms were still strutting and gobbling at the farm on Saturday.

Thanks for the honest reply. I'm good to go.

I find this confusing after all the shizz I've read on here. I understand the objection, but I don't have a clue about the standard. Seems arbitrary to me.

Guess your reading comprehension needs work too. Deer eat the stems, but don't utilize them. You're raising cattle. You haven't proven a thing, other than the fact that you can't grasp the world outside of your fences, and that you are incapable of admitting you're wrong. You should look into science.

Why didn't you just post a picture of the grain truck? Your program is virtually the same as my neighbor's program for dairy cows. It has very little to do with deer. Deer get big when they don't have to fend for themselves. Congratulations. I just don't see what deer farming has to do with plantings for deer. Red clover isn't the devil, but it isn't anywhere near the best either. Either way, I'm glad to rattle your cage.

Yup. Sounds just like all the wild deer that we're interested in. Might as well post about goats. They get 22% grain and you give all the glory to stemmy clover. I love it. What does a post about raising cattle/goats have to do with this thread?

Good to see pics from out on the water! Nice catches by all. I took a day off to work around the house. Planted most of my garden (finally) and tilled up my "pasture plots" for the first time. My buddy called me about a boat for sale, so maybe... Keep posting those pics!

I farmed it for plenty of years, and I am well aware that deer eat the stems. As Dinsdale pointed out, they don't digest it well, so it's a waste of energy. There are better things to plant than tall clovers. It's not like they have a hell of a lot of choice inside a fence anyhow. You "know" so dang much that you avoid the facts like the plague. Given the choice deer won't eat the stems in mid-summer when the plant matures. Stick with "Four Seasons", cuz the only "Real World" you seem to know is inside your fences.

Whitetails cannot properly digest and utilize the stem in the taller clovers. They aren't cows. Look it up. Seems like something you should already know. "Deer do not digest fiber stems well. The energy that the clover plant puts into growing thick tall stems is wasted. Fibrous stems are high in lignin, which makes stems rigid, and deer digest lignin ineffectively. ... Whitetail clovers should generally have thin stems and grow dense and low to the ground."

Red clover. Not ideal for whitetail because they cannot digest the stem of the taller clovers. A short, white clover is a better overall choice IMO.

Your preference points wouldn't help you this year. No moose season. The state is trying to figure out what to do about the tick problem. The moose population is taking a beating.

We always par-boiled them and grilled them. They are tough, but flavor is alright. It seemed to me that their flavor was better early in the year, as opposed to later in the summer.

Saw my first yesterday morning. The doe was following the fawn, instead of the other way around. It was fun to watch. No pictures yet, but I will have to cameras out in the area that I need to check.

Poison them where they spawn!

I shoot for the mid-July or 1st week of August.