josephmrtn Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 hey guys im thinking of getting into reloading and am just wondering what you guys think of the hornady lock-n-load classic kit.... natchezss shooters supplys has it for 259.99 plus a mail in rebate for 500 free bullets from hornady, is this a good kit for a starter like me? (i no ALMOST nothing about reloading) here is the link: http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=PC085003 please check it out and tell me what you think.... also for starters im going to be reloading 270. 308. and 30-06 with possibly some 7.62x39 someday if mil surp ever goes crasy in price (like up to 20 bucks or something like that) thanks guys! (any tips or tricks for a newbie, besides "make SURE you only put the proper amount of powder in dont just pour it in till the shell is full" lol) BOOM!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-bone20917 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 That looks like a good kit for a good price. I use mostly RCBS components, but Hornady stuff should be nice. Just remember to start at the low range of what the manual shows for powder requirements and work your way up. You'll love reloading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephmrtn Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 the main reason im looking at this one is cause it comes w the dies and some other nice stuff the rcbs rock chucker supreme master kit dosent plus im to cheap to pass up on 500 free bullets... LOL and i like hornady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) THis is what I bought to start at the begining of the year. Love it. I am reloading 38 sp, 357, 223 Rem, 270 Win, 308 Win and 30-06 sprg,I can switch calibers in about 2 minutes. and can load pistol rounds at about 150 an hour. Pifle I load in single stage operations but I never have to adjust my dies because of the turret set up, unless i switch bullets. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/785993/lee-4-hole-turret-press-with-auto-index-deluxe-kit Check the reloading threads on here, there have been lots of topics on this. Edited November 28, 2012 by Culvercreek hunt club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doewhacker Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Sweet, I was just reading threads yesterday on reloading and wondering where to begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Take a ride west with a some beer and try your hand at it here...lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doewhacker Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Take a ride west with a some beer and try your hand at it here...lol Deal! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I will have the venison feast ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doewhacker Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 So what besides what comes in the kit would a guy need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) http://www.midwayusa...gton?cm_vc=OBv1 Press Kit NEED http://www.midwayusa...teel?cm_vc=OBv1 Caliper NEED http://www.midwayusa...ler?cm_vc=sugv1 Bullet puller NEED http://www.midwayusa...lue?cm_vc=sugv1 Reloading Tray NICE http://www.midwayusa...iber?cm_vc=OBv1 Powder Funnel NEED http://www.midwayusa...stud?cm_vc=OBv1 case trimmer lock stud to attach a drill NICE http://www.midwayusa...rip?cm_vc=sugv1 case trimmer ball grip to do a few by hand NEED http://www.midwayusa...-grain-capacity (Digital scale...very nice but not required) http://www.midwayusa...umbler-110-volt case tumbler (not NEEDED but they sure look nice...lol) Nice http://www.midwayusa...powder-trickler Powder trickler...again not NEEDED but makes it easier to hit exact powder amounts. NEED I think http://www.midwayusa...gton?cm_vc=OBv1 I like these dies for a rifle becasue is give you full length sizing and neck sizing. ...for each caliber http://www.midwayusa...ton?cm_vc=sugv1 I factory crimp everything I use. I shortens case life but increases accuracy and gives a positive bullet seat. IMO....for each rifle caliber http://www.midwayusa...ret?cm_vc=sugv1 Turret Plate for each caliber you want to reload http://www.midwayusa...ster?cm_vc=OBv1 Trim Guage for each caliber Off the top of my head I can't think of anything else I got to start....of course that list always grows. I am sure I forgot something but maybe the other guys can add to the list. I tried to show what was needed and what is nice to have. Oh forgot...brass, bullets, primers and powder....step one is read...read...then read some more before you start. It isn't hard to do it is just detailed and you shoulndn't be distracted when doing it. Edited November 28, 2012 by Culvercreek hunt club 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistolp71 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Culvercreek covered most of it. I've been reloading on a regular basis(rifle,pistol,shotgun) for 20 plus years and would recommend RCBS products. Lifetime guarantee no questions asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doewhacker Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Wow thanks!!! Looks like I can get into the hobby for $4-$500 to start with the extras you listed, it would pay for itself rather quickly with the cost of ammo and a whole family of shooters. I bet I have spent at least that much over the last year on ammo. When I get home I will make my wish list and start aquiring supplies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephmrtn Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) http://www.midwayusa...gton?cm_vc=OBv1 Press Kit NEED http://www.midwayusa...teel?cm_vc=OBv1 Caliper NEED http://www.midwayusa...ler?cm_vc=sugv1 Bullet puller NEED http://www.midwayusa...lue?cm_vc=sugv1 Reloading Tray NICE http://www.midwayusa...iber?cm_vc=OBv1 Powder Funnel NEED http://www.midwayusa...stud?cm_vc=OBv1 case trimmer lock stud to attach a drill NICE http://www.midwayusa...rip?cm_vc=sugv1 case trimmer ball grip to do a few by hand NEED http://www.midwayusa...-grain-capacity (Digital scale...very nice but not required) http://www.midwayusa...umbler-110-volt case tumbler (not NEEDED but they sure look nice...lol) Nice http://www.midwayusa...powder-trickler Powder trickler...again not NEEDED but makes it easier to hit exact powder amounts. NEED I think http://www.midwayusa...gton?cm_vc=OBv1 I like these dies for a rifle becasue is give you full length sizing and neck sizing. ...for each caliber http://www.midwayusa...ton?cm_vc=sugv1 I factory crimp everything I use. I shortens case life but increases accuracy and gives a positive bullet seat. IMO....for each rifle caliber http://www.midwayusa...ret?cm_vc=sugv1 Turret Plate for each caliber you want to reload http://www.midwayusa...ster?cm_vc=OBv1 Trim Guage for each caliber Off the top of my head I can't think of anything else I got to start....of course that list always grows. I am sure I forgot something but maybe the other guys can add to the list. I tried to show what was needed and what is nice to have. Oh forgot...brass, bullets, primers and powder....step one is read...read...then read some more before you start. It isn't hard to do it is just detailed and you shoulndn't be distracted when doing it. 1. comes w kit 2. have in my shop 3. buy seperate 4.included 5.included 6.buy seperate 7.buy seperate 8.included 9.buy seperate 10.included 11.included 12.buy seperate 13.buy seperate 14.buy seperate as far as i can see this is whats included in the kit.... mostly the stuff that i dont REALLY need is not included.......... i was thinking of the rcbs kit but im cheap and want the free bullets, i already have two friends commited to buying from me.... so i very well might get it Edited November 28, 2012 by josephmrtn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 RCBS is good stuf from what I am told. I liked the turret system and the ability to change caliges and not have to adjust dies. I am loading pistol and rifle and it was the best compromise for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephmrtn Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 yeah i can understand that, but all im gonna reload is rifle so i prob dont need that capacity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Go on youtube and watch a few videos of the different presses in operation. that will give you a feel for how each operation goes. I found that helpful. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephmrtn Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 thanks for the info i might do that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 IMO, if you are going to be reloading for other guys, and multiple calibers, the setup Culver has is light years better than the Lock and Load. Seriously, you wont regret the 500 rounds of ammo lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Oh and Doe, get your butt out here, the beer will be cold and the venison hot. I have 4 DMPs that need filling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jusputtn Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 You'll likely want to buy powder &primers locally as there's a hazardous material charge on top of shipping. I've started trying out Midsouth Shooters Supply. Prices seem competitive but I've only placed one order so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephmrtn Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 IMO, if you are going to be reloading for other guys, and multiple calibers, the setup Culver has is light years better than the Lock and Load. Seriously, you wont regret the 500 rounds of ammo lol. i still cant decide...... i dought i will reload over 100 rounds per yr per guy unless we buy or find some more brass, we are not big shooters just mostly hunters... (between us all this yr we used about 20 rounds of ammo, mostly me missing deer lol) any fresh opinions? i like the option of buying everything in one kit also, i dont wanna buy everything seperate... another thing if i would wanna reload more do most shooting ranges have brass that i could get for cheap or for free? also where is a good place to get powder primers ect would, gander mountain, dicks sporting goods or herb phillipsons have it? i do my shopping in watertown if that helps..... (sorry im a noob at all this) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 The thing to consider is that with the turret style reloading machine, you never have to reset dies, etc. You install them into the plate and swap out plates (one for each caliber) as needed. Simplifies things. You can get most of what you need in a kit, then separate dies and plates for each different caliber. Its right here... http://www.midwayusa.com/product/785993/lee-4-hole-turret-press-with-auto-index-deluxe-kit You are still going to need dies, bases, etc for the lock and load kit as well, and the Lee setup is less money to start with. Your decision in the end, but I personally think youd be making a mistake with the lock and load kit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 The only time you would have to adjust a die with the turret is if you change bullet type.....might fit the seating die differently....or you want to change the OAL for a specific gun. I run the 4 hole turret because I like having the full length sizing die and neck sizing die all set up. I only use one or the other depending on the gun but I don't have to add it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jusputtn Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Adjusting a die for different bullet types is pretty quick if you make up a dummy round for each bullet type. Just back off the seater, put it in the dummy round and lightly screw down the seater until you feel it touch. Should put you within a few thousanth's of the overall length on the first try. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 +1 on above. .....Just what I do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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