BizCT Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Another bogus lion sighting report. These people are morons. Every bobcat, coyote, big dog, etc that is spotted; People cry "Mountain Lion" PURCHASE — Deep in the heart of estate country, among the mansions, country clubs and schools of Purchase, lurks, maybe, a lone predator with an insatiable appetite for squirrels, raccoons and other small mammals. Twice last week, as the long shadows of dusk stretched across the Sarosca Farms subdivision, workers spotted what they thought was a mountain lion. Word of the beast’s appearance in the otherwise tame fields of Harrison reached town Supervisor Ron Belmont, who included a note about the sightings in his Jan. 14 letter to residents. After assuring his constituents that the Police Department was “tracking the time and location of each sighting,” Belmont wrote: “Please proceed with caution, supervising young children and small animals and avoid unlit areas in your neighborhood.” Belmont has since visited the site, a development with several large homes and many more cleared lots evenly spaced along Stone Bridge Road near the Old Oaks Country Club, but hasn’t seen any hint of a massive cat. Whatever the workers saw, he said, was “very big” with no spots. He said someone snapped a photograph of a paw print; it turned out to have been made by a dog. “I’m starting to think it’s not there,” Belmont said today. The state Department of Environmental Conservation says mountain lions — aka cougars, catamounts, panthers — were extirpated from the Northeast in the late 1800s. That hasn’t stopped reported sightings. Occasionally a rogue cat materializes. In 2011, a mountain lion was run over in Connecticut; officials determined it had roamed east from South Dakota. And in 2009, Orangetown hired trackers to make sense of a string of big-cat sightings and claw marks found in Palisades. No lion ever surfaced. The DEC received a third-party report of a mountain lion sighting in Harrison earlier this week, said spokeswoman Wendy Rosenbach, but no agents had been dispatched to investigate. Asked about the likelihood that what the workers had seen was, in fact, a mountain lion, Rosenbach said, “We don’t have any evidence of any reproducing populations of mountain lions or cougars in New York state.” Pressed further and asked if it were possible that a mountain lion could be prowling through Purchase, she replied, “Probably not.” Rosenbach advised those who think they might have spotted an unusual animal to call the DEC’s wildlife hotline at 845-256-3098, and reminded New Yorkers to “enjoy wildlife from a distance.” For the time being, the Purchase panther remains little more than a specter, perhaps slinking among a handful of newly built 7,000-square-foot, five-bedroom homes and empty lots; perhaps simply mistaken for a dog. A visitor to the subdivision this morning found neither the cat nor the workers who reported seeing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Rat Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Regardless of what you think , calling people "morons" is a little extreme imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Lots of deer up in those woods,a cat could eat there and hide for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREDATE Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Hey ya' never know!! I'm not a sceptic or a believer, but have learned not to discount what I cannot prove. I was told by a family member that they found a deer carcass up in a tree down in the catskills while they were building the Millenium pipeline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonelement Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 i know a few people who have seen them in Greenwich CT. That is pretty close to the spotting in Purchase. The experts say they have a range of 200 square miles...one was found dead in milford CT only 40 miles away from greenwich so i guess its not a crock. Why do you think they are morons?!?!? Because you traveled thousands of miles and spent big $$ to have a dog chase one up a tree and shoot it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Regardless of what you think , calling people "morons" is a little extreme imo. Not if they are Identifying dogs, bobcats, house cats etc as mountain lions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterweasle Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 that cougar that was killed near greenwich, had traveled in from north or south dakota, it wasnt from a resident population..........................the story of the deer in the tree I've heard since the early/late 90's. ward stone, wildlife pathologist from DEC said it wasnt a cougar kil.................and anything I've ever seen about cougars is that they bury thier kills, not drag them into trees, like a leopard does in africa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I don't care what ppl are seeing...keep posting these...it's at least a change from the gun control fiasco..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noodle one Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 If I remember right, the NY DEC was telling everyone that there were no coyotes in NY state a while back. I don't believe any thing they say. If the truth came out about mountain lions, ,them everyone would be out there hunting them. They are here ,I know because I saw one and know of others who have seem them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Then find and post some proof - like the people seeing coyotes did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Rat Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Felines are much more elusive than canines......even the D.E.C. will admit to that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuckBoy Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I think there are mountain lions around... The DEC just dos'nt want us to think so! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuckBoy Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 If there are someone will get proof 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 Not if they are Identifying dogs, bobcats, house cats etc as mountain lions. +1. The people doing the identifying are anything but outdoorsmen. i know a few people who have seen them in Greenwich CT. That is pretty close to the spotting in Purchase. The experts say they have a range of 200 square miles...one was found dead in milford CT only 40 miles away from greenwich so i guess its not a crock. Why do you think they are morons?!?!? Because you traveled thousands of miles and spent big $$ to have a dog chase one up a tree and shoot it? Yes, the greenwich lion was documented and nobody has proof of one since. I know a few people who saw flamingo's in greenwich, so does that mean they are there? What would me getting a lion in Arizona have to do with my original comment? I said they are morons because they have no idea what they are identifying, not because I shot a lion. Your comment doesn't make any sense whatsoever. You just sound like an 11-post jealous guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonelement Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I have been hinting one spot for abt 6 years and have game cams in 6 months out of the year i see bobcats abt 4 or 5 times a year while hunting and have never gotten a gamecam pic does that mean they arent there too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 that cougar that was killed near greenwich, had traveled in from north or south dakota, it wasnt from a resident population..........................the story of the deer in the tree I've heard since the early/late 90's. ward stone, wildlife pathologist from DEC said it wasnt a cougar kil.................and anything I've ever seen about cougars is that they bury thier kills, not drag them into trees, like a leopard does in africa Correct. I have talked to many mountain lion outfitters and none of them say that lions put deer kills in trees. Every deer kill they ever come across is on the ground, sometimes partially buried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonelement Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Jealous of what believe me i have plenty of money to pay a dog to chase an animal up a tree i could do it everyday if i wanted 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I have been hinting one spot for abt 6 years and have game cams in 6 months out of the year i see bobcats abt 4 or 5 times a year while hunting and have never gotten a gamecam pic does that mean they arent there too? No because numerous others take bobcats every year in NY and there is a lot of real proof of them other than alleged sightings. See the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) Jealous of what believe me i have plenty of money to pay a dog to chase an animal up a tree i could do it everyday if i wanted Another stupid comment. $1.5MM (not including flights, licenses, taxidermy, gratuities) it would cost you at $4k per hunt per day. So definitely well over $2MM. But you wouldn't be able to keep up and never get a shot anyway. I do find it flattering though how you barely have any posts but have gone back and read my hunting stories from months ago. Edited January 21, 2013 by Biz-R-OWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I have been hinting one spot for abt 6 years and have game cams in 6 months out of the year i see bobcats abt 4 or 5 times a year while hunting and have never gotten a gamecam pic does that mean they arent there too? No, but your cam is not the only one out there in NYS, and there are plenty of bobcat pics from others in NYS. Not so with MLs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsandtigers Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 There are no lions in Missouri. There hasn't been a sighting since 1994. If there were any we'd see them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsandtigers Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 It is now 1997. There have been no confirmed reports. Well, there was one in January but it was one that was raised in captivity and let go. There are not mountain lions in Missouri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsandtigers Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 It is now 1999. There are no mountain lions in Missouri. Well there was a lion treed in January but that was probably a mountain lion raised in captivity and there were a few earlier but same thing. There are no resident mountain lions in Missouri. It there were, we'd see them. They are all bogus reports. people see a squirrel and think it is a mountain lion. Again, there are no mountain lions in Missouri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsandtigers Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 It is not 2001. There are no mountain lions in Missouri. Well, there was a video taken in December 2000 and a photo the next year but those were only captive lions let loose. If there were mountain lions we would see them. There would be dead ones in the road and pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsandtigers Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 It is now 2010. There are no mountain lions in Missouri. People reporting them are really mistaking small children for mountain lions. Yeah their are photos (2 in 2010; 2 in 2006) but if there were really mountain lions around we would see them. Yeah there was one killed in 2002 but that was probably just a captive one let loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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