josephmrtn Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 nope not at all times... they have a lock thru the action but have a loaded mag ready to roll laying on the gun rack so all i gotta do is unlock and go... shotgun i gotta load the shells seperate... and yes i do tend to check out my guns before shooting, just not EVERY time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYbuck50 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 maybe a bear trap in the leaves in front of the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 doc show me anywhere where its legal to set any kinda of trap like a nail board, cause if that's legal why stop with nail boards, how about punji pits, maybe a few doors covered by a shotgun that fires when the door opens Then I suppose a trip wire detonated Claymore is out ... ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMiz54 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 REDNECK HOME SECURITY SYSTEM1. Go to Goodwill and buy a pair of men's used size 14-16 work boots.2. Place them on your front porch, along with a copy of Guns & Ammomagazine.3. Put a few giant dog dishes next to the boots and magazine.4. Leave a note on your door that read:Hey Bubba,Big Jim, Duke and Slim and I went for more ammunition. Back in an hour. Don't mess with the pit bulls - they attacked the mailman this morning and messed him up real bad. I don't think Killer took part in it, but it was hard to tell from all the blood. Anyway, I locked all four of 'em in the cabin. Better wait outside til I get back.Cooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrm Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 you're correct when the property is not fenced in. but if somebody hurts themselves by going "above and beyond" to enter your property you can get off the hook. But I still wouldn't do it, especially if it kills someone. I would be careful with that. By setting a trap, you are creating a "known dangerous condition" on the property. While the perp may be prosecuted for trespassing, you could still find yourself facing criminal or civil charges for setting the trap. Fence or no. Setting a trap is "pre-meditated" and an attempt to harm or kill someone. If someone is simply trespassing, you are not allowed to use "deadly force." I am not a lawyer, but everything I have read on the topic of posting and trespassing confirms this. Allowing a "dangerous condition" to exist is bad, creating one with the intent to harm others is just asking for big trouble. Someone broke in and stole $30 of copper pipe. You retaliate by setting up a trap which seriously injures, maims or kills them. You don't stand a chance in court. Let's say someone broke into your home in NY and was simply trying to steal your TV and run out the door. You catch them in the act and shoot them in the kneecap. You are pretty much guaranteed a criminal trial and a very expensive civil suit. A trap that doesn't discriminate between someone with mal intent and someone who is simply lost has to increase your liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 . Let's say someone broke into your home in NY and was simply trying to steal your TV and run out the door. You catch them in the act and shoot them in the kneecap. You are pretty much guaranteed a criminal trial and a very expensive civil suit. A trap that doesn't discriminate between someone with mal intent and someone who is simply lost has to increase your liability. In your homw with a robbery in progess is one of the specified times for justifiable use of deadly force. In your home in NY there is no duty to retreat. And I would work on your aim a bit...lol. Knee cap. The point is valied for a civil case though since anyone can sue for just about anything in the Peoples' Republic of New York. That is another argument for center of mass as opposed to knee caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 what if a scumbag burglar breaks into a cabin, through a window. Assuming that the cabin's interior is a little on the dark side, the scum finds himself tangled up in a bunch of loose barbed wire that was stored in the cabin, at ankle level, for later use around the property. As he tries to free himself he gets more and more tangled up. In a panic, he stumbles for the door and trips over a strand of 100lb test fishing line that was tied between two studs and was being used to mark a spot for an up and coming remodel. The trip causes the scumbag to fall, face first into an open box of antique broken glass & rusted nails. As he rips the front door open, to get out, a bucket filled with a solution of vinegar and salt ( which was left to repel moths) falls from the top of the door jamb and douses his freshly cut face. As he runs from the cabin, screaming in pain & wrapped in barbed wire that is tearing into his flesh he runs onto a dirt road where he is struck by a logging truck which knocks him off into the woods where a bear humps his almost dead body and then eats him. Thats not the cabin owners fault is it????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 what if a scumbag burglar breaks into a cabin, through a window. Assuming that the cabin's interior is a little on the dark side, the scum finds himself tangled up in a bunch of loose barbed wire that was stored in the cabin, at ankle level, for later use around the property. As he tries to free himself he gets more and more tangled up. In a panic, he stumbles for the door and trips over a strand of 100lb test fishing line that was tied between two studs and was being used to mark a spot for an up and coming remodel. The trip causes the scumbag to fall, face first into an open box of antique broken glass & rusted nails. As he rips the front door open, to get out, a bucket filled with a solution of vinegar and salt ( which was left to repel moths) falls from the top of the door jamb and douses his freshly cut face. As he runs from the cabin, screaming in pain & wrapped in barbed wire that is tearing into his flesh he runs onto a dirt road where he is struck by a logging truck which knocks him off into the woods where a bear humps his almost dead body and then eats him. Thats not the cabin owners fault is it????? the bear would be labeled a nuisance bear that is a danger to humans and DEC would track it down and kill it........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I don't think ant self rspecting bear would go near that POS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Contact your local scrap metal dealers. They have to keep a record of all the copper they buy. When our camp got hit by thieves we had friends go to the bars. Our peckerwood was selling our stuff for meth money. Got his name and most of our stuff back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catskill Hunter Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 If you can leave your electric on try one of these http://www.amazon.com/NightWatcher-Robotic-Security-Light-Camera-LED/dp/B0040720FC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378682827&sr=8-1&keywords=motion+light+with+camera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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