Doc Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Well, I have had a pretty good run of luck hunting on state land over the years, but yesterday was a bit different. In the past I have encountered all kinds of interference .... bikers hikers, small game hunters, but I have learned where I had to go to avoid those kinds of problems. Well this year, the apples have drawn the deer down into the valley bottom, and the hilltop where I can go to get away from interference is quite empty of deer. So my scouting this year has turned up a bumper crop of apples and the trails are just crazy down in the thickets of the valley bottom. So I located a few of my old stands in the area and was hoping to score there this year. I got all hunkered in and started waiting when I heard some voices not far away. That wasn't a complete surprise because over there is main access trail. I figured that shouldn't be a problem because it was still early in the afternoon. So pretty soon a gun shot goes off. My gosh it seemed like it was right next to me. And then all hell broke loose. Shot after shot. So I packed up (no real point to trying to hunt there) and went out to see what the hell was going on. So there I see two people all set up in a mowed clearing for target practice. Well, that's not nice but is one of the things you have to occasionally put up with when dealing with state land. What did bother me was the set-up. These guys had a box with a few plastic bottles on top located in front of a very thick stretch of brush. This area is the valley bottom and is dead flat where all this was going on, so there is nothing that could be considered a backstop other than the thicket that you cant see more than a few feet into. The fact is that it was just such a thicket that I was standing in for my afternoon hunt. The good news is that I was in an area that was about 45 degrees from their line of fire. The bad news is that I have several places that I hunt that are very close to their line of fire and I could have been sitting in one of them. The other bad news is that there is an access route that has been mowed by the state that goes in kind of a semicircle around this patch of brush that is frequently used by hunters and hikers when heading up the hill. I guess I now have to consider this whole valley bottom area to be unsafe for hunting and am now forced to walk away from the area with all the sign and food attractions. That's is indeed unfortunate and probably doesn't bode well for what I expected to be a good bowhunting year. But the real bothersome thing is the way some people approach gun safety when picking out a place to shoot their guns. Had they gone another few hundred yards, they could have been shooting into the hill or the sides of one of the many ravines coming down the hill. Instead, they chose to ignore one of the fundamental rules of gun safety and picked an un-backstopped area, and shooting into an area that had no visibility to anything farther in than a dozen feet or so. The whole thing was a bit scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burmjohn Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Wow, that doesn't sound safe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Gee that sucks. I guess you can count your blessings that you were not hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACHINIST Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 No target shooting allowed on state properties,I would call the DEC and let them know what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 I suppose the odds are pretty slim that I would be in exactly the spot where their bullets were winding up. But it sure is un-nerving when you hear this going on and you have no idea exactly where they are shooting. The other thing is that this guy had his kid with him. He commented that in a short time he would be taking him out on the youth gun hunt. I was just thinking that this was one of the fathers that is acting as a hunting mentor? That's a bit scary too. The prime safety rule that the kid had just learned in his recent hunter safety training course of being sure of what is in the line of fire and beyond, was being shot down by his own father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve863 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 No target shooting allowed on state properties,I would call the DEC and let them know what happened. Not true. Some may have restrictions, but not all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 No target shooting allowed on state properties,I would call the DEC and let them know what happened. Not true. State forests (if that's what we're dealing with) allow target shooting on the conditions that your target is not something that will be left behind (glass bottles and clay pigeons) and you're not intentionally damaging state property (tacking your target to a living tree). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genesee_mohican Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 That is bad news, hard to take at the beginning of the season. State lands can be great to hunt, but a crap shoot as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Regardless Doc saw these guys practicing unsafe shooting procedures on state land...Calling the DEC and describing the activity and it's location is the only course of action to be taken, period...the life possibly saved could be someones kid...mom.. dad ..brother or sister...ect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 maybe it's park dependent but i thought target practice was illegal? for the very reasons mentioned in this thread. You never know who's hunting or hiking nearby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genesee_mohican Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 You can target shoot on state land unless that land is posted or designated as closed to target shooting. 190.8.bb http://www.dec.ny.gov/regs/4081.html#12996 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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