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Do you think that the powers that be on the "right" won't try to take your guns when it is convenient for them & they don't need your votes anymore?

 

 

 

 

Good point.  I tell you, if Romney had been in office during the Sandy Hook shootings, you'd have seen national gun control on AR guns, high-cap magazines and such.  The ONLY reason a law wasn't enacted is that the republicans are using it as a political tool.  It wins them votes to be against anything Obama might want to do, so they shot any gun control measures down.  Plenty of republicans don't sleep comfortably knowing that the populace has a lot of firepower, just like democrats.  Just wait until the next republican sits in the White House and you have another one of these massacres.  The NRA won't do $#!+ about it either!

 

 

 

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You said you agree with him on everything but the Safe Act.

 

So you agree that traditionally minded conservatives have no business living in NY?

 

Cuomo doesn't sound like someone who is '90% conservative' , as you claim. Sounds like someone who is 100% fascist.

Man oh man, get your glasses checked.

 

How in the he!! do you get that I agree with Quomo on everything but the Safe Act. Is it because I stated that he was 90% conservative?

 

Your knee jerk reactions are really getting quite amusing. What's so funny is that your question of "So you agree that traditionally minded conservatives have no business living in NY?" would probably be exactly how YOU feel about liberals. Funny how some people project their own weakness onto others.

 

I don't have a problem with "traditionally minded conservatives". I have a problem with extreme right radicals that call themselves "conservatives" trying to bully others that perhaps don't share their myopic view of having the 20th century appealed.

 

Hint. bullying only works with those that are insecure.

 

BTW: If the "conservatives" had gotten their way in 1776, we would still be kissing the king/queens a$$ just like they did.

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 I don't agree with anything about Quomo & what you can't seem to grasp is that the dark $$$ on right made sure their guy, you lnow, the one that ram-rodded the Safe Act through got re-elected. But the Koch brothers have your 2nd ammendment rights on the top of their list right? Well come to think about it, that may be true, but not in a way that you would prefer. You see, thanks to Citizens United, they can hide lots and lots of money contributions through PACs & they can support whatever they choose W/O the political fall-out.

 

The GOP candidate was just a sacrificial goat & he was further vilified by the same ads that were used to vilify Alise's opponent.

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Good point.  I tell you, if Romney had been in office during the Sandy Hook shootings, you'd have seen national gun control on AR guns, high-cap magazines and such.  The ONLY reason a law wasn't enacted is that the republicans are using it as a political tool.  It wins them votes to be against anything Obama might want to do, so they shot any gun control measures down.  Plenty of republicans don't sleep comfortably knowing that the populace has a lot of firepower, just like democrats.  Just wait until the next republican sits in the White House and you have another one of these massacres.  The NRA won't do $#!+ about it either!

Finally, someone that is not blinded by the right. (pun intended)

 

As I see it, it would be better to work to change/moderate the ones that are open about the gun control issue than to be blindsided by those that lie about it for political expedience.

 

It wouldn't be a big surpirse if the NRA is in bed with them. Spreading panic about gun confiscation brings more publicity for them, more contributions to fatten the front that they use to launder all the money they get from the power brokers.

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Finally, someone that is not blinded by the right. (pun intended)

 

As I see it, it would be better to work to change/moderate the ones that are open about the gun control issue than to be blindsided by those that lie about it for political expedience.

 

It wouldn't be a big surpirse if the NRA is in bed with them. Spreading panic about gun confiscation brings more publicity for them, more contributions to fatten the front that they use to launder all the money they get from the power brokers.

 

 

 

It's like every other issue in this country.  Nothing ever gets resolved anymore because if it ever did, someone would NO longer be making money off of it.  The whole idea has become to keep issues alive for decades without ever coming to any sort of compromise and resolution.  They keep going around and around on issues just so they could keep the money flowing (into their pockets).  Very sickening, but that's where we are at and I don't see things changing anytime soon.

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It's like every other issue in this country.  Nothing ever gets resolved anymore because if it ever did, someone would NO longer be making money off of it.  The whole idea has become to keep issues alive for decades without ever coming to any sort of compromise and resolution.  They keep going around and around on issues just so they could keep the money flowing (into their pockets).  Very sickening, but that's where we are at and I don't see things changing anytime soon.

Same thing with our so called "health care system". Cures are not nearly as lucerative as pedeling drugs & "treatment".

 

My mother had "blue ribbon" health insuarnce. They couldn't spend enough time "treating her" for real or imagined ailments. Meanwhile some young 20 something father without healthcare could die for lack of treatment because he didn't afford or couldn't even get "health insurance" due to "pre-exiting conditions".

 

Then there were those times that the insurance companies just kicked patients to the curb when they reached their "coverage limit" I.E. cut too far into the Insurance companies "bottom line".

 

Yeah, those were "the good old days" alright. Freedom!

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So you support fixing that by making everyone who has coverage pay for those who do not.  There may have been problems before, but with the changes made, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

 

 

So why did our insurance rates go up on average of 10-15 % per year before Obamacare?   That's right, we were paying for those who didn't have it and for those who abused it.  No different than what you are claiming will happen now.  As imperfect as Obamacare is, at least now some of the cost will be distributed to those deadbeats that never bothered to cough up the money before.  With the old system, that would have NEVER happened.

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So why did our insurance rates go up on average of 10-15 % per year before Obamacare?   That's right, we were paying for those who didn't have it and for those who abused it.  No different than what you are claiming will happen now.  As imperfect as Obamacare is, at least now some of the cost will be distributed to those deadbeats that never bothered to cough up the money before.  With the old system, that would have NEVER happened.

 

 

No, your hospital bills were inflated to cover those who did not pay.  Health Insurance costs rose due to those increased hospital bills, Lawyers, Lawsuits and Government Regulation.  

 

You seem to have very little idea how "imperfect" ObamaCare is.  Not surprising though.  People who want "hope & change" will grasp at any straw offered to them.

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Gee, The ACA, modeled after Romneycare in Massachusetts, (a Republican idea no less) didn't affect my rates at all since I'm not a dead beat & have had health insurance for ages. What it did do was allow my son to be covered under my wifes policy for a small additional fee, so he could get treatment for a pre-existing knee injury.

 

All the ACA does is regulate the insurance industry. What really pi$$es them off & the reason they are pumping the ill informed with their propaganda is the 80/20 rule.

 

That mandates that they spend 80% of their revenues on actually providing health care. What a damned socialist nightmare! No more writing off exorbitant executive bonuses & corporate jets used to fly them around on trips to the Caymen Islands & such. The nerve of those damned liberals expecting the health insuarnce industry to spend money on health care!

 

And are you really naive enough to think that if Robme & the Aynn rand deciple had been elected we wouldn't have the same damned thing being sold as the best thing since sex by the GOP?

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The problem with guys like you is, you believe you know a lot.  Trouble is, everything you think you know is wrong.

 

Far be it from me to prevent your God given right to pursue happiness, even if it is in fantasy land.

 

I'm done with this guy too!  LOL!

 

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The problem with guys like you is, you believe you know a lot.  Trouble is, everything you think you know is wrong.

 

Far be it from me to prevent your God given right to pursue happiness, even if it is in fantasy land.

 

I'm done with this guy too!  LOL!

Yep you got a fork in ya. Your done alright!

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Wow, talk about a topic heading off into the wild blue yonder.....lol. You guys really know how to destroy a thread. You know, if you want to have a political ideological argument, you might want to start your own thread and take it off to the political area of the forum.

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