I have a question...

[growalot]

Now is it Cornell that helps the DEC out with deer research...surveys..and statistical analysis right or wrong?

[growalot]

no one knows?

[scolopaxmatt]

I'm sure they do but I wouldn't think they are the only organization involved. 

[adkbuck]

Yes grow, NYSDEC contracts with Human Dimensions Research Unit  in the Dept. of Natural Resources Department at Cornell to conduct many of its surveys and do statistical research, and write reports especially regarding hunter preferences and attitudes.

[growalot]

Thanks.. I thought so, but wanted confirmation....I now wonder if any of the people that did this particular study, work on the deer studies as well.....

 

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/02/25/cornell-researchers-find-safest-place-to-hide-from-zombies/

[growalot]

perhaps the US government uses their research as well....

 

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3567042102001/pentagon-has-plan-to-combat-a-zombie-apocalypse-/?#sp=show-clips

[phade]

Thanks.. I thought so, but wanted confirmation....I now wonder if any of the people that did this particular study, work on the deer studies as well.....

 

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/02/25/cornell-researchers-find-safest-place-to-hide-from-zombies/

 

I hope so. People that model endemic/viral/bioterrorism situations are pretty darn smart in general. I like smart people working on deer studies.

 

What do you think?

Edited February 26, 2015 by phade

[growalot]

What do I think..

Well I think that if you want to make a model for endemi/viral/bioterrorism situations a pretty darn smart group of people  would do so modeling REAL threats not far fetched movie/TV threats. It's is not as if the world governments aren't storing enough horrific things to destroy the human population........ that these "darn" smart people couldn't have come up with a real senerio....Well unless you beleive in Zombies phade

[phade]

What do I think..

Well I think that if you want to make a model for endemi/viral/bioterrorism situations a pretty darn smart group of people  would do so modeling REAL threats not far fetched movie/TV threats. It's is not as if the world governments aren't storing enough horrific things to destroy the human population........ that these "darn" smart people couldn't have come up with a real senerio....Well unless you beleive in Zombies phade

 

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to mine.

 

I do not believe in zombies, but I have zero problems with this effort. I also believe people who complain about this are lacking any ability to really think critically about this situation. Blindsided about the premise it is about a "zombie," they are people who can't see the forest for the trees...

 

When running through academic exercises, sports practice sessions, military endeavors, the actual subject/content doesn't matter. It's the process that is being perfected. The zombie component is simply a by product. They could have done it on alien invasions, Jurassic Park breakout, or King Kong...and the whole purpose of the darn thing would be the same.

 

Studying hypotheticals has been around since the dawn of academia, so I guess I don't get why people ruffle their feathers over it.

Edited February 26, 2015 by phade

[growalot]

Phade I would not expect an other opinion being made by you...... truly

[phade]

Phade I would not expect an other opinion being made by you...... truly

 

I concur, because I'm not delusional.

[growalot]

 

Be understanding.  A child is not a miniature adult. Having little experience in dealing with his emotions, he may overreact when he is upset. Try to see the situation through his eyes.

 

[dbHunterNY]

it's not uncommon for professors to encourage research or projects that analyze some off the wall concept or fictional scenario.  I found this out when I went to college.  for an "architecture behavior and design" class the final project I pretty much had to do was a bit screw up.  if you can turn something nuts and/or ridiculous into good conclusive, analytical, research then it proves you're most likely capable working on something a little more realistic with concepts you can easier wrap your head around.

[growalot]

Though by the time one starts working for the United state government...such "exercises" should be left back at the teaching halls.

[phade]

Though by the time one starts working for the United state government...such "exercises" should be left back at the teaching halls.

 

Training and learning doesn't stop at school. Soliders train well after boot camp. NASA scientists model landing on a moving asteroid, defending against aliens, and more. Do I need to even mention the CDC Grow? Take a look for yourself.

 

http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies.htm

[dbHunterNY]

Though by the time one starts working for the United state government...such "exercises" should be left back at the teaching halls.

 

one I did should be and the other shouldn't be.

 

the architectural one should definitely be left back at the university in the professor's security key pad locked office wing.  it was a tangible thing someone could call home that could be used by FEMA, DHS, and CIA ...for good reasons or bad.

 

another one that was probably all good and cool more in line with my engineering degree was Barker code use for analyzing eclipsing with radar.  eclipsing is basically when radar pulses are so far apart that is misses the object it would normally pick up.

 

.......government has their hand in everything.

[wildcat junkie]

Wow, we went from Cornell university to FOX News!

 

Quite a credibility gap there eh? 

[Doc]

What I find a bit scary about some of this research is the way the public latches on to it in almost a religious fashion and attaches infallibility to it simply because of the university atmosphere it was all hatched in. If the words research, study, survey, etc. are attached, it is automatically assumed to be flawless and nearly directly from the mouth of God. Government policy and planning is based on some of these proclamations without even a thought of questioning the science. After all, it came from a university didn't it? Every year it becomes easier and easier to use studies and research to influence political scenarios and ideological situations, and I don't see that as a super healthy thing.

 

 

[philoshop]

Government agency to research scientist: "Do you think you can prove XYZ to be true?"

Research scientist: "With the proper funding, I certainly can."

Tomorrow's headline in the mainstream media: "XYZ IS FACT"

[phade]

What I find a bit scary about some of this research is the way the public latches on to it in almost a religious fashion and attaches infallibility to it simply because of the university atmosphere it was all hatched in. If the words research, study, survey, etc. are attached, it is automatically assumed to be flawless and nearly directly from the mouth of God. Government policy and planning is based on some of these proclamations without even a thought of questioning the science. After all, it came from a university didn't it? Every year it becomes easier and easier to use studies and research to influence political scenarios and ideological situations, and I don't see that as a super healthy thing.

There is a balance with everything. If this was not there to influence, another item in the sphere of influence would be. Not sure there is anything to replace it that could be free and clear impartial, unbiased, etc.

[Doc]

There is a balance with everything. If this was not there to influence, another item in the sphere of influence would be. Not sure there is anything to replace it that could be free and clear impartial, unbiased, etc.

My point  is that a lot of people have lost their natural human sense of skepticism when it comes to anything that has the words, university research, studies, or surveys, attached to them. There seems to be a growing trend in mentality that automatically assumes that because something comes from a university atmosphere that it is not to be questioned. That kind of blind acceptance does and has opened up opportunities for misuse, and abuse. Government and all kinds of agenda driven entities have found that sort of blind faith to be a very useful tool.

[wolc123]

One thing I have learned  to bank on, is that any text or spoken words, no matter who's fingers or mouth it came from, outside of the Bible, is bound to contain lots of fiction.   I am blessed to come from a long line of threshers, and have never struggled much to remove the "wheat from the chaff".  My ancestors actually had a couple big Oil-pull tractors and a giant threshing machine that they would haul around in the early part of the previous century to do that actual job.  That was before everyone switched to combines. I still have the manuals for some of those machines.   The more time one spends in front of a TV, computer, or smart-phone type device, the easier and faster they can loose their ability to separate truth from fiction.    That is why we are seeing such a sharp uptick lately in the number of people who can so easily be "sold a bill of goods".