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He's owned by the entire Socialist world!  He has no business even being in this country with that political philosophy.

You mean hundreds of thousands of contributors that sent him $250 or less?

 

Last time I looked there were no laws against socialist democracy. If you had your way we would only have political parties that cater to your views. Sounds like the old Soviet Union to me, only one political party.

 

Canada  most of the developed countries in Europe have socialist democracies.

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I can't wait until the truth about where his money is coming from comes out.  People who support Sanders do not understand American Economics at all and are mostly too young, in body or in mind, to teach it to them.

 

There are no laws against Socialism in America.  If Americans are stupid enough to vote for it, they deserve it!

 

My way would be a political system that actually upholds the US Constitution, and that is definitely not Sanders.

 

Sanders will bring us closer to Soviet politics than anyone else on the current candidate stage.

 

Move to Canada or one of those Socialist countries if you are so enamored with their system.  Leave those of us who appreciate freedom here to enjoy it without the whining and complaining American Socialists love to do.

 

 

 

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Junkie, show me how any of Sander's policy proposals will do anything to lower the poverty levels in this land.  All he plans to do is give them more "free" stuff at our expense to allay their poverty.  It's a big government perpetual care proposal, not a way of curing the ills.  Perpetual care is for graves, not for free men.

 

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Junkie, show me how any of Sander's policy proposals will do anything to lower the poverty levels in this land.  All he plans to do is give them more "free" stuff at our expense to allay their poverty.  It's a big government perpetual care proposal, not a way of curing the ills.  Perpetual care is for graves, not for free men.

YEAH…..Thats called SOCIALISM!! Junkie is a socialist. He won't give you any examples of how to lower poverty because socialists have none.  Just take from the evil workers and give to the poor non workers who are kept down by the capitalist system.

 

If any of these socialists were serious, they would give most of what they make to charity, sell their homes and get a tiny apartment, sell their cars and use public transportation, or walk, and keep enough of what they earn to just barley get by… How many ball up and do that???

 

BTW …What is considered "poverty level" in the U.S. is considered middle class or even upper middle class in a lot of countries.

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YEAH…..Thats called SOCIALISM!! Junkie is a socialist. He won't give you any examples of how to lower poverty because socialists have none.  Just take from the evil workers and give to the poor non workers who are kept down by the capitalist system.

 

If any of these socialists were serious, they would give most of what they make to charity, sell their homes and get a tiny apartment, sell their cars and use public transportation, or walk, and keep enough of what they earn to just barley get by… How many ball up and do that???

 

BTW …What is considered "poverty level" in the U.S. is considered middle class or even upper middle class in a lot of countries.

I knew you wouldn't let me down ants. You are always good for comedic entertainment.

 

I'm a bit preoccupied at the moment, but I will soon give you examples of how Sanders plans on ending hand outs to increase employment at middle class wages thus creating even more jobs..

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I knew you wouldn't let me down ants. You are always good for comedic entertainment.

 

I'm a bit preoccupied at the moment, but I will soon give you examples of how Sanders plans on ending hand outs to increase employment at middle class wages thus creating even more jobs..

If you had time to type this , you had time to give examples……Franticly searching Google???  LOL!!!

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Bernie's plan is no secret.  It's a "tax the rich to pay for America's ills" plan that he calls fair.  The people affected by it would call it theft.  It's the opposite of what free enterprise is supposed to reward.

 

It's also not the end of what Bernie is willing to do to institute his version of "fairness", or what Socialists consider "equality".  That's what his supporters don't see now, but will be very shocked by when they find out.

 

Ten Fair Ways to Reduce the Deficit and Create Jobs (by Bernie Sanders)

Republicans in Washington, D.C. want to balance the budget by slashing Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, education and other federal programs that millions of Americans rely upon. (this is fear mongering BTW and not even close to true)

I have a better idea.  At a time when we are experiencing more wealth and income inequality than at any time since the 1920s, and when Wall Street and large corporations are enjoying record breaking profits, I believe that we should be asking the very wealthiest people in this country to start paying their fair share of taxes.  That way, we will not only lower the deficit but we will bring in enough revenue to invest in our economy and create the millions of new jobs we desperately need.  (Bernie LOVES taxes and will continue to come back for more)

From both a moral and economic perspective, we must not balance the budget on the elderly, the children, the sick, working families, and the most vulnerable. (Nobody wants that, but Sanders wants EVERYONE to feel more pain, except the Big Government)

Here are 10 examples of how we can raise revenue and reduce spending in a fair way.  (raise Revenue is code for TAXES)

  1. Stop corporations from using offshore tax havens to avoid U.S. taxes. Each and every year, the United States loses an estimated $100 billion in tax revenues due to offshore tax abuses by the wealthy and large corporations.  The situation has become so absurd that one five-story office building in the Cayman Islands is now the “home” to more than 18,000 corporations. (Why not stop taxing corporations into exile instead?  His plan will just entice more to leave)

    The wealthy and large corporations should not be allowed to avoid paying taxes by setting up tax shelters in Panama, the Cayman Islands, Bermuda, the Bahamas or other tax haven countries.  The first bill that I introduced in the Senate (the Corporate Tax Dodging Prevention Act) would raise more than $580 billion over the next decade by eliminating the most egregious corporate offshore tax haven abuses. (No, it will simply cause a lot of wealthy Americans to leave the country, give up their citizenship and take their money with them.  The taxes collected would then drop)

  2. Establish a Robin Hood tax on Wall Street speculators.  Both the economic crisis and the deficit crisis are a direct result of the greed and recklessness on Wall Street.  Creating a speculation fee of just 0.03 percent on the sale of credit default swaps, derivatives, options, futures, and large amounts of stock would reduce gambling on Wall Street, encourage the financial sector to invest in the job-creating productive economy, and reduce the deficit by $352 billion over 10 years, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation. (Punitive taxes never ENCOURAGE anything but avoidance)

     

     

  3. End tax breaks and subsidies for big oil, gas and coal companies.  If we ended tax breaks and subsidies for big oil, gas, and coal companies, we could reduce the deficit by more than $113 billion over the next ten years.  (At the expense of the consumers in higher energy prices and taxes)  The five largest oil companies in the United States have made over $1 trillion in profits over the past decade.  Exxon Mobil is now the most profitable corporation in the world.  Large, profitable fossil fuel companies do not need a tax break. (They need those profits to reinvest in future energy exploration and capital assets like new refineries.  Profits are currently high because the government will not let energy companies invest in new capital assets like refineries)
     
  4. Establish a Progressive Estate Tax.  If we established a progressive estate tax on inherited wealth of more than $3.5 million, we could raise (STEAL) more than $300 billion over 10 years.  In 2010, Sen. Sanders introduced the Responsible Estate Tax Act that would reduce the deficit in a fair way while ensuring that 99.7 percent of Americans would never pay a penny in estate taxes. (Class Warfare-Eat The Rich)
     
  5. Tax capital gains and dividends the same as work.  Taxing capital gains and dividends the same way that we tax work would raise (STEAL) more than $500 billion over the next decade.  Warren Buffet has often said that he pays a lower effective tax rate than his secretary.  The reason for this is that the wealthy obtain most of their income from capital gains and dividends, which is taxed at a much lower rate than work.  Right now, the top marginal income tax for working is 39.6%, but the top tax rate on corporate dividends and capital gains is only 23.9%. (How about we just lower taxes on income?)
     
  6. Repeal all of the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax breaks for the top two percent.  In January, Congress finally repealed the Bush tax breaks for the top one percent – households (actually small businesses with family owners, not rich people with lots of cash) making more than $450,000 a year.  But the Bush tax breaks have been continued for the top two percent – households with incomes between $250,000 and $450,000 a year. (same small businesses)  Repealing the Bush tax breaks for all of the top two percent would (kill thousands of small businesses that create jobs and not) reduce the deficit by about $400 billion over the next decade.  After President Clinton increased taxes on the top two percent, the economy added over 22 million jobs.  After President Bush reduced taxes for the rich, the economy lost over 600,000 private sector jobs. (False information derived from creative accounting and used for fear mongering and raising taxes.  How does taking more in taxes from small businesses leave them more money to add employees and invest in capital equipment?  It doesn't)
     
  7. Eliminate the cap on taxable income that goes into the Social Security Trust Fund.  If we are serious about making sure that Social Security can pay all of the benefits owed to every eligible American for the next 50 to 75 years, we don’t do that by cutting benefits, we do that by scrapping the cap on taxable income so that a millionaire and a billionaire pays the same percentage of their income into Social Security as someone making $40,000 or $50,000 a year. Right now, someone who earns $113,700 a year pays the same amount of money in Social Security taxes as a billionaire.  This makes no sense. Applying the Social Security payroll tax on income above $250,000 would ensure that Social Security remains solvent for the next 50 years. This plan would only impact the wealthiest 1.3 percent of wage earners; 98.7 percent of wage earners in the United States would not see their taxes go up by one dime.  (Once again Class Warfare.  The rich do not get anymore from SS than the rest of us based on what they put in)
     
  8. Establish a currency manipulation fee on China and other countries.  As almost everyone knows, China is manipulating its currency, giving it an unfair trade advantage over the United States and destroying decent paying manufacturing jobs in the process.  If we imposed a currency manipulation fee on China and other currency manipulators, the Economic Policy Institute has estimated that we could raise $500 billion over 10 years and create 1 million jobs in the process.  (China will surely be more than happy with this.  I'm sure they will send us buckets of cash if we just ask.  LOL!)
     
  9. Reduce unnecessary and wasteful spending at the Pentagon, which now consumes over half of our discretionary budget.  Much of the huge spending at the Pentagon is devoted to spending money on Cold War weapons programs to fight a Soviet Union that no longer exists.  Lawrence Korb, an Assistant Secretary of Defense under Ronald Reagan, has estimated that we could achieve significant savings of around $100 billion a year at the Pentagon while still ensuring that the United States has the strongest and most powerful military in the world.  (Never allow a Socialist to determine what is needed for defense, unless you don't want to be defended at all.)
     
  10. Require Medicare to negotiate for lower prescription drug prices with the pharmaceutical industry.  Requiring Medicare to negotiate drug prices, similarly to what the VA currently does, would save more than $240 billion over 10 years. (Is the VA currently a good example of a government agency that is doing things right and putting veteran's first?  What do you think Medicare will do for America's elderly?)

 

 

Sander's will "fix" everything, by taking control of everything, and taxing ALL Americans at 50% to 70% of their earnings with income taxes, higher costs for goods and services, and "fees" for everything.  No Thanks

 

The problem isn't America doesn't tax enough.  The problem is America spends too much.

 

 

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Lets wait for Junkies response…He is busy doing something right now. When he frees up Im sure his examples of Bernie world will have nothing to do with taking from the earners and giving to the none earners.

 

We should get some Socialist "Comedic relief" any second now.

 

Early??

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At least Bernie openly calls himself a Socialist. I'll give him that. Others of his ilk hide behind the label of Democrat, which they were somehow able to co-opt for their own devices in the early to mid 20th century.

 

Many seem to forget that Capitalism and the concept of free-market enterprise is precisely why we're not all still riding horses and using an abacus under the glow of an oil lamp today.

 

The US was founded as the home of the free...free to think, free to innovate, free to produce. Put that freedom under the control of a central government and there will be little or no thinking, innovating, or producing. And there will absolutely be no personal liberty as we've come to know it.

That's not how our government is supposed to work.

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