I can't stand it .........

[fasteddie]

I had to change the channel . I was watching the Vs channel and they were hunting deer in Texas . What the heck . They had their choice of deer to shoot . And on one program , there was 15 - 20 deer standing on a farm dirt road . Another show had a buck pacing up and down a field looking for love until the guy shot it .

[WNYBuckHunter]

Thats hunting entertainment for ya.

[skyzmine]

its all CGI  lol  maybe ;D

it never happens like that for me.

hell, by the time i saw my 10 pointer this year it was right on me,

and i only had a split second to draw, sight & shoot.

but to see 10 plus deer hust hanging out..... never

[Gthphtm]

It is called Shooting Not Hunting.

[Doc]

Those Texas shooting gallery hunts are real interesting aren't they? Generally if I don't change the channel real quick, I can expect to doze off from boredom. Sometimes I check out the edges of the picture to see if I can spot the feeder. It's not exactly quality hunting programming.

[fasteddie]

They didn't even have af them thar purty gals in the videos !

[Renegade]

That's not hunting, that's target shooting and I haven't seen that many targets at a muzzleloading shoot.

[fasteddie]

Nothing like sitting in an elevated box blind with sliding windows and a cup of coffee on the shelf waiting for a couple dozen deer to come out on the trail so you can pick out which big buck to shoot over the corn pile . Sweet !!!

[Mr VJP]

A lot of Texas ranchers have decided it's more profitable to raise a herd of whitetail than a herd of cattle.  But it's the people who are willing to pay the money to shoot a B&C buck there that make it happen.

There is no hunting skill involved with taking a B&C buck on one of those ranches.  Just as there is no skill in playing slot machines in a casino.  When luck shines on you, you win.

This is why I feel a trophy whitetail mount these days requires an explanation attached to it as to where and how it was taken.

[bubba]

Sadly, that is what most people think hunting is.  They want to make our hunting just like on TV. As far as seeing a lot of deer at once, 10 - 15 years ago, the farm I hunted and my whole wmu 6a was very over populated.  I sat in a box blind off the edge of an alfalfa field.  It had sliding windows, but I do not drink coffee lol. I saw as many as 22 deer in the field afternoons.  Those days are gone now that the polulation is under control.  We also had 5000 car deer accidents a year in my county at that time.  I am drifting from my point that those shows give people such an unrealistic idea of hunting, it will be the ruination of hunting as we know it.  10 years ago, the term shooter buck was unheard of. It was a buck, it was shot. It was antler not bone, and the number of points has been replaced with the number of inches.  We were much less competitive They all have a free encore in 300 win mag and everyone has to have one to kill a deer because that is what they use on tv.  You too can hunt that way too if you want to spend 3 to 5 thousand a hunt, sit in a blind over a bait pile and have a guy wth you tell you what you can shoot and what you cant.  Me I personally want more control than that.  These shows are the basis for QDM AR and all other ways of controllling hunting so we can be just like those phony guys on TV.  I would love to invite any of them to my piece of property and have them actually hunt, which means do your own scouting, setup a stand and hunt. If they were lucky enough to take a deer, field dress it and drag it to camp.  Maybe they would get an idea of what hunting really is.  I am sure that a week of that would never make it on tv.

[nyantler]

Yeah the TV stuff is way out of touch with the type of hunting we do here in NY.

[Mr VJP]

I'd like to see a TV show of a guy in the Adirondacks, who picks out a good buck's track in 6" of snow, tracks it for 48 hours, sleeping in the woods for a night, and then shooting it in it's bed from 100 yards.

This show should also be showing all the work required after the shot to get it home and make food out of it.  If such a show existed, we would present to non-hunters the real physical endurance, skill, and determination required to actually trophy hunt on state land, like the majority of average American's have the only option of doing.

I doubt anyone could view such reality on screen without deep respect and admiration for the hunter.

[Renegade]

Nothing like sitting in an elevated box blind with sliding windows and a cup of coffee on the shelf waiting for a couple dozen deer to come out on the trail so you can pick out which big buck to shoot over the corn pile . Sweet !!!

Very Sweet Indeed. 

[Renegade]

I'd like to see a TV show of a guy in the Adirondacks, who picks out a good buck's track in 6" of snow, tracks it for 48 hours, sleeping in the woods for a night, and then shooting it in it's bed from 100 yards.

This show should also be showing all the work required after the shot to get it home and make food out of it.  If such a show existed, we would present to non-hunters the real physical endurance, skill, and determination required to actually trophy hunt on state land, like the majority of average American's have the only option of doing.

I doubt anyone could view such reality on screen without deep respect and admiration for the hunter.

Very well said Mr VJP.

[nyantler]

Jim Masset and Joe Dinito, probably the best known trackers in NY, and I have always talked about filming something.. but it is a huge undertaking. Tracking deer with two people (the hunter and a cameraman) is very difficult because of th added movement 2 people make in the woods. It might be possible with two good trackers that hunt the same way because they would be able to work better together, but still it's extremely hard to track with 2 people when hunting a wily big buck.

[Doc]

Bubba-

That's a pretty accurate description of where I see hunting heading and why. It's not a pretty picture. But the competitiveness, harvest at any cost and the success measured only in inches apparently is the way most hunters seem to want to see hunting go. I guess that's why those baited, box-blind, Texas hunts are such popular TV programs.

[bubba]

see Doc great minds think alike sometimes lol.  Have a Merry Christmas and  a HappyNew Year

[Mr VJP]

For my Adirondack tracking show, I envision the hunter doing it alone with a miniature camera or two mounted somewhere capable of showing what the hunter sees, and recording what he hears.

I think production quality is not as important as getting the task on film to show to an audience.  It could look like a home movie and still be impressive if all of the hunt is captured.

[SteveB]

All the hunting shows are just infomercials.

Like watching extreme home makeovers and thinking that's all I need to do to build that addition.