growalot Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I told what happened d in live from the stand...Now other than the loudness of arrow release the doe miss was purely on me. Long hold on a deer that got spooky at my draw. I'm sure my arm creeped up a bit. That does not explain the missing broad head and insert....it was clearly there when I shot. I would think the force of the shot would have held it in place.The arrow had Zero damage and I dug and dug never to find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Is the insert still glued into the shaft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 No and I had just checked that for tightness when I put the arrows in the quiver Friday night...all were tight...the Carbon express I bought last year. I'm taking the morning off,this year will be hunt a few times let the woods rest. Early season is mainly checking movement around different areas and times. Though I had prepared to get a doe last night for Wilson's...Temps are going to near 80 this week. I am going down there with a shovel today unless someone tells me that broadband managed to leave the shaft before it hit...the shaft was only in the ground 2"'s. I dug out a 1 ft circle where I pulled it out,with a hard maple stick...nothing but dirt and stones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 So the insert is gone too? Gremlins.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 So the insert is gone too? Gremlins.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 Yes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, growalot said: Yes... Old Faithful is a tree stand? If so, look under your stand. It wasn't (I know; it was at one point) glued in properly. Then it was inserted in your quiver in preparation for the hunting season. When you pulled the arrow out of the quiver after getting into your stand on the day of the issue, the broadhead and insert stayed in the quiver, lodged in the foam. You didn't notice that the broadhead was missing when you loaded the arrow........ At the shot, the broadhead/insert fell to the ground and is there now, in plain sight. When I'm not cruising Hunting Chat Rooms, I'm solving crimes around the world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 That's impossible for me...I aim down the point of broad head. S poo as I waited for that doe to finally clear the leafy branches above her I was looking at that pink G4. It was on the end of the shaft...though the sound it made makes me think it wasn't there on impact. What I can't understand is how it could possible have left the shaft between the release and impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 OK, one more shot at this.......... The broadhead tipped arrow hit the point of the shoulder and the impact was so extreme that the arrow separated from the insert and tumbled to the ground. Your eyes told you that you missed completely but your ears told a different tale. Next week that old doe will come into one of your setups and your aim will be true. Mystery solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 No because as I said off she went...but she circled around and passed back as I was un hooking and and gathering gear to get down..besides the shaft was completely clean..to be honest it wasn't even dirty when I pulled it from the ground...I'm taking the shovel down later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 I found it...1/2 in. from where I'd stopped digging last night..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Did the arrow stop and the broadhead burred into the soil deeper? My Steel Force 125's use to pull the insert out of the arrow on ground in pack. I started gluing my own inserts into the arrows. The glue would stick to the steel, but not the carbon. Now having trouble with pre glued vanes coming off 2 year old Carbon Express arrows. Manufactures glue not holding. Quite frustrating taking a shot and seeing vanes flying off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 (edited) I don't know why the double post? Edited October 4, 2016 by landtracdeerhunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Haha ,nice find ,I was wondering myself what happened to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 I had to find it...I'm so cheap!...but I really dug around there so it was bugging me...Landtrac your right I think thats what happened...I now need to find where I put my fletching glue...wonder if Elmers wood would work...lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 7 hours ago, growalot said: I had to find it...I'm so cheap!...but I really dug around there so it was bugging me...Landtrac your right I think thats what happened...I now need to find where I put my fletching glue...wonder if Elmers wood would work...lol Fletching glue? Elmer's? Surely you're joking.................... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hock3y24 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 that would explain it if you used fletching glue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Gorilla glue is my favorite for inserts, just remember it expands Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hock3y24 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) i use the Easton brand hot melt, no issues so far have put the same arrow through 4 deer.3 last year 1 this year Edited October 5, 2016 by Hock3y24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 It is setting with Gorilla glue as I type...yes guys a joke and they were glued in at factory...didn't have a problem last year and as I said I checked them Friday...but 17 yards and hitting the tangle of roots it hit didn't help...though, I still wonder about the noise...I have shot since no problem and I know I didn't hit a sleeve...Oh well...I found it shaft is still good and insert is....just checked tight again...just need to get the stone out and sharpen the blade... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 PS.......... any tips to sharpening these G4's I have two from last year that need sharpening...I have 6 all together and my thunderheads... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 43 minutes ago, growalot said: PS.......... any tips to sharpening these G4's I have two from last year that need sharpening...I have 6 all together and my thunderheads... yea just go equal strokes on a larger flat stone or diamond grit sharpening pad. it should be wide enough to set two of the blades flat on it with full contact. sharpen each side equally to maintain broadhead balance. then if you can weigh them and match them with arrows for consistent weight between ready to shoot/hunt arrows. G5 sells a stone for their Montec heads (what you have). they're the easiest because same angle is always maintained. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I'm curious how the insert fit in the carbon shaft was. I've had arrows that will lose inserts. fit wasn't snug to begin with. they'd fall right in. I typically use BSI glue for inserts. works well. Gorilla glue is good too if it's the impact tough formula that can take the shock of impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted October 6, 2016 Author Share Posted October 6, 2016 Fairly snug actually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 4 hours ago, Hock3y24 said: i use the Easton brand hot melt, no issues so far have put the same arrow through 4 deer.3 last year 1 this year Is that the blue stick? If so that's what I use...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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