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I have a call that does buck, doe, fawn. I use it sometimes but have never had any luck with it that I can tell. I want a doe now. Some say blow the dawn noise, but no doe have ever responded to mine. I have done the doe call a little but that may also attract bucks. Normally for me I do a couple of fairly short sounds, no more than two seconds each call, wait a few sec, do it again.

How often do you call? Or do you much?

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I cold call all the time using different tones, volume and duration.  I usually see something every sit, no every, but more often than not.  I can honestly say I have called in younger deer, but not very mature ones.  I can stop the older mature deer with a call, but wouldn't say I have called them in closer.

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19 minutes ago, Core said:

How often do you guys run these things? Assuming you can't see any deer in view at the time...every 15 min? Hour? Five min?

I never do it at first light or just before dark. For me, its usually a middle of the day type of thing. I hit it softly 3 times (10 seconds apart), every 10 minutes, 3 times (so 20 minutes total).

I think the key is not to sound distressed or does may be alerted and go farther away. I have also had red fox, coyotes, and even turkeys come into the call.

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I've called them right in.... sometimes they come in too hot though depending on what you're doing.  don't call much and remember there's a better chance a doe has heard a call and associated it with a hunter than a buck has.  I've had doe on a light run or trotting through.  couple shorter contact grunts and they'll at times take a detour your way.  I've also had them come into rattling sequences despite I don't use rattling much.  Other one I've used early in the season is a series of four fawn distress bawls.  as it gets further into stages of the rut though that last one might be ignored by a doe.  for whatever reason yearling bucks will come into it.  I think due to curiousity is all.

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1 hour ago, growalot said:

Try a turkey call...Because I call with my natural voice I do this all the time when  things are slow...If you koo and purr the deer know the turkey are relaxed and feeding...It is the "alls clear" sound to a deer and they will come in to see whats on the menu.

I'm going to try this next time out, next week.

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Funny timing on this thread. last night I got two doe come into a field 80 yards away up wind. They were walking around slowly and basically chilling so I got to really have a go with the call. I tried fawn in distress first and no response to any of it. I then tried doe a couple of times. I was doing this because the sun was coming down and needed them to come within range. After a while doing this every couple of min finally that sound we hate to hear: snorting. Not sure if they got worried over the stupid calls I was making or saw me. Deer's long range vision is worse than ours, so maybe it was the sounds. I wish I had rattlers to at least try that out, as I did "call" in a deer (not sure doe or fawn) a few nights ago as I came down out of the tree at night and was zipping up my pack and everything.

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20 hours ago, Core said:

 

I have a call that does buck, doe, fawn. I use it sometimes but have never had any luck with it that I can tell. I want a doe now. Some say blow the dawn noise, but no doe have ever responded to mine. I have done the doe call a little but that may also attract bucks. Normally for me I do a couple of fairly short sounds, no more than two seconds each call, wait a few sec, do it again.

How often do you call? Or do you much?

 

The only reaction to Buck calls I have had is to have them turn tail and run the opposite direction. Apparently younger to mid range age Bucks will flee calls that sound more mature. I recently got the extinguisher call, which has a nice slide mechanism for changing from doe to Bucks, and you can mimic younger Bucks. I am avoiding mature Buck settings. I have had way more luck with rattle calls.

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14 minutes ago, Papist said:

The only reaction to Buck calls I have had is to have them turn tail and run the opposite direction. Apparently younger to mid range age Bucks will flee calls that sound more mature. I recently got the extinguisher call, which has a nice slide mechanism for changing from doe to Bucks, and you can mimic younger Bucks. I am avoiding mature Buck settings. I have had way more luck with rattle calls.

Yep mine has a slide. Dang it I am gonna buy some rattlers.

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This is a muffled version of my fawn distress call, (I cover my mouth to make is sound lower.) it is really more of a location call but the fawn is stressed and wants some milk so they will keep calling, they do not know they are suppose to be quiet! 

You can do it as often as you want but I find it works great early morning when doe are on their feet especially early season.  I have called in many doe this way (I use them as bait for the bucks.).  I usually do not call more than once an hour and usually less than 5 times a day.  Fist light is a great time, then 11 am 1 pm then possibly late in the day but I usually do not call late day as much.

Several reasons for not calling too much: 

1) They can locate you!

2) Deer move so if you keep calling in one location deer will know something is not right!

3) Early season calling is great but if they spot you on the ground it will probably not work on that doe group again unless you make it sound like the fawn is being attacked by predators.  Only issue with that fawn in distress call is the doe come in quick and on high alert and that can make for a hard shot. This call is more of a location call and doe usually will come in less weary of predators.

This is what you are mimicking but this fawn is really small, this time of the year you would want the call a bit deeper than this baby of a few days.

This is exactly what you are trying to mimic.  This larger fawn wants Mom and some milk and is not afraid to call for Mom.  You can use the cans but I find it is easy to do with your mouth.  Simple Maaaa, Maaaaaa will work if you keep it high pitched, tuck your chin back to make the doe bleet.

 

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4 hours ago, NFA-ADK said:

 

This is exactly what you are trying to mimic.  This larger fawn wants Mom and some milk and is not afraid to call for Mom.  You can use the cans but I find it is easy to do with your mouth.  Simple Maaaa, Maaaaaa will work if you keep it high pitched, tuck your chin back to make the doe bleet.

 

this is basically what I'd do and what I meant by bawl.  not a full all out bawl like it's being attacked.  they don't sound much different even months later in early fall well after spots are gone.

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