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[The_Field_Ager]

They Bombed the people fighting ISIS. The same folk who just mowed down civilians in Sweden. How is this a good thing? ISIS celebrated this Syria attack

[The_Field_Ager]

Syrian rebels used Sarin nerve gas, not Assad’s regime: U.N. official

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/6/syrian-rebels-used-sarin-nerve-gas-not-assads-regi/

[diplomat019]

1 hour ago, Papist said:

Syrian rebels used Sarin nerve gas, not Assad’s regime: U.N. official

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/6/syrian-rebels-used-sarin-nerve-gas-not-assads-regi/

Did you hear ron paul on this whole mess?.  The bomb bomb bomb crowd is gonna need to let the smoke clear to see this straight.   

 

https://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-chemical-weapons-attack-in-syria-likely-a-false-flag/

[fasteddie]

Attention Kim JongUn

[Rattler]

Trump has pissed off a lot of people who voted for him based on his "America First" pledge.  they don't want America to be the world's police force.

The other thing that seems weird is, too many Democrats, like Schumer and Hillary, support it.  That has to be proof it was the wrong thing to do.

[growalot]

Lol kudos..that's an argument difficult to argue against! Though I'd believe what the UN flunkies say as much as a used car sales man. Or what a hooked would say to a balding middle aged man..

[philoshop]

4 hours ago, growalot said:

Lol kudos..that's an argument difficult to argue against! Though I'd believe what the UN flunkies say as much as a used car sales man. Or what a hooked would say to a balding middle aged man..

Hey Growie, I really resemble that remark.   Just kidding. I'm well beyond "middle" age.

The thing to keep in mind here is that this strike was more about the message than it was about the actual damage. President Trump sent a very clear message to the world that Obama is gone, and that he's not going to take any crap from people like Assad or that fat kid running North Korea. It's a message that had to be sent. Doing it during dinner with the Chinese leader Xi Jinping was a bonus.

[growalot]

Oh I agree...but his democrat argument was good

[philoshop]

29 minutes ago, growalot said:

Oh I agree...but his democrat argument was good

Trump got a lot of support from his U.S.opponents for this action as well. Schumer, Pelosi, McCain, Graham... All while he's gearing up to fight for tax reform. ;-] Don't ever sell him short in the 'smarts' department.

[The_Field_Ager]

47 minutes ago, philoshop said:

Trump sent a very clear message to the world that Obama is gone, and that he's not going to take any crap from people like Assad or that fat kid running North Korea.

I don't see an equivalency here. N.Korea is probably the worlds most objectively evil regime. Not only do we not Tomahawk it, but we in fact feed its people and its fat leader. What gives? Assad is an ally in the fight against ISIS. Korea is not

I'm not saying Trump is a dummy. But have we been bamboozled by a secret Zionist globalist? Its sure looking that way right now. 

Edited April 8, 2017 by Papist

[growalot]

Papist, you surprise me...your believing main stream media and the UN no less...give time to clear the muddy waters before believing Anything....Also we don't know all that the government truly knows about Assad. There is a reason that whole plan was in place when Obama was in office.

Edited April 8, 2017 by growalot

[Doc]

It seems to me that Trump is in a no win situation. He talks about the whimpering do nothing Obama who basically turned the US into a friggin laughing stock around the world with his cowering failure to react to outright challenges (and that was all true) but then he gets criticized for establishing the US as someone not to mess with.

Some people apparently defined his America First policy as meaning that he intended to withdraw from the entire international scene and continue Obama's policy of sitting in some dark corner sucking our thumbs and maintaining a posture of irrelevance and cowardice. Well, I guess they got it wrong......thankfully.

This gas attack was just a test to see what Trump was made of. I think he passed the test.

[diplomat019]

4 hours ago, Doc said:

It seems to me that Trump is in a no win situation. He talks about the whimpering do nothing Obama who basically turned the US into a friggin laughing stock around the world with his cowering failure to react to outright challenges (and that was all true) but then he gets criticized for establishing the US as someone not to mess with.

Some people apparently defined his America First policy as meaning that he intended to withdraw from the entire international scene and continue Obama's policy of sitting in some dark corner sucking our thumbs and maintaining a posture of irrelevance and cowardice. Well, I guess they got it wrong......thankfully.

This gas attack was just a test to see what Trump was made of. I think he passed the test.

We were at war for all of obamas 8 years. That's ridiculous.   All of you who love this bombing other countries should be praising obama.  

 

And once again we bombed a country for what?   Syria didnt attack the United States.   Why are we putting our noses in their issues again?   

[Core]

He should have gone to congress for approval, because there was no immediate threat to the US and he messed up on that.

But, otherwise I fully supported what Trump did here. I'm sorry I don't put any stock in sites like infowars. It's even more fake news than the biased MSM crap from cnn, fox, etc.

In this action Trump received pretty widespread support from the allied countries, including canada, europe, australia, japan, some middle eastern ones. And internally most republicans love it, and even schumer and pelosi were not particularly critical of this and I think at least one of them if not both had warm positives on it. Essentially the only people who didn't like what he did were assad, russia, china (i.e. all the countries that hate the US no matter what) and then people who never go to any news site but hardcore right wing ones and are 100% sure this was a false flag because putin said it was (and he never lies).

As far as I know every western nation is of the confident opinion that Assad was responsible for this chemical attack, and not simply because planes attacked a building that rebels may have been developing sarin in. As such, there need to be extreme repercussions for people using WMD. He received a slap on the wrist and got off easy, but in this Trump made it impossible for Assad to consider doing this again (if he does, next time multiple airports will be wiped off the map, at a minimum) and an ancillary benefit to it is that finally NK, for the first time this century, is legitimately worried that if they keep on their current course they may be attacked unilaterally. 

Syria is probably doomed anyway. It's not like Assad's opposition are great people, but don't cry for Assad. Don't you dare.

Edited April 9, 2017 by Core

[philoshop]

15 hours ago, Papist said:

I don't see an equivalency here. N.Korea is probably the worlds most objectively evil regime. Not only do we not Tomahawk it, but we in fact feed its people and its fat leader. What gives? Assad is an ally in the fight against ISIS. Korea is not

I'm not saying Trump is a dummy. But have we been bamboozled by a secret Zionist globalist? Its sure looking that way right now. 

There are roughly 1,000 different factions in Syria today. The two primary ones are the rebels, who are ISIS; and Assad, who generally supports non-rebel ISIS factions. The strike ordered by Trump didn't pick a side in that fight, it sent a message that the use of chemical weapons against innocent civilians will not be tolerated.

Those two primary factions are both intentionally creating civilian 'refugees' who will be forced to leave their country so that the caliphate expansion can continue. This makes the recent gas attack a direct threat to U.S. national security when/if those 'refugees' are infiltrated by ISIS and relocated to the U.S.

N. Korea is an entirely different animal. Hopefully the time will never come when Fat Kim needs to learn a lesson, but President Trump has shown that he's not afraid to use force when necessary

[The_Field_Ager]

3 hours ago, philoshop said:

 The strike ordered by Trump didn't pick a side in that fight,

It most certainly did. ISIS publicly celebrated this attack on an airbase that was actively protecting a nearby Christian village from daily ISIS threats. If I know this, Trump knew this. And the US has dropped white phosphorus bombs in some theaters of action. This makes any moral outrage against the us of chemical weapons dubious in its sincerity.

 

I just wish the powers that be would be honest and say Syria is a struggle over who controls the gas going into Europe. Pretending to hold any moral high ground given that western action is directly responsible for the mid-east sh#t-show is kinda sick.

Edited April 9, 2017 by Papist

[The_Field_Ager]

4 hours ago, Core said:

I don't put any stock in sites like infowars. It's even more fake news than the biased MSM crap from cnn, fox, etc.

Examples or it didn't happen.

And infowars is but one voice wondering why Trump has done a 180 on his previous sentiments surrounding  foreign entanglement  . Still no proof Assad did it, or indeed what chemical was used. Looking like it wasn't Sarin anyway

Whether one supports this Zionist neo-con action or not does not change the fact that this is not what people voted for.

[The_Field_Ager]

3 hours ago, philoshop said:

 

Those two primary factions are both intentionally creating civilian 'refugees' who will be forced to leave their country so that the caliphate expansion can continue.

Funded and armed by western powers, as it has been from day 1.

[The_Field_Ager]

4 hours ago, Core said:

Syria is probably doomed anyway. It's not like Assad's opposition are great people, but don't cry for Assad. Don't you dare.

I'll weep for the Christian communities he protected who are now being slaughtered by so called rebels. Rebels we have armed and trained.

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Our Saudi Allies have been bombing children and women all over Yemen. No moral outrage for that from POTUS. Does this not underscore the hypocrisy of our attitude to Syria and other places were bad men operate daily? There appears to be a very distinct geographical component in terms of what upsets us.

 

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Trump's cabinet has turned into a Zionist wet dream...oh well

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