Alex jones banned from YouTube and apple

[Hunter007]

Ok i know this guy says some crazy things sometimes  but if its all bs why the sensorship ?

What happen to free speech in this country ?  I find this troubling. 

Edited August 7, 2018 by Storm914

[Robhuntandfish]

couldnt happen to a better guy - he is a POS!  Hope the families of Sandy Hook bankrupt him.  

There is free speech - he wasnt arrested - thats what free speech is about.  Doesnt mean what you say doesnt have consequences and that companies and people cant distance themselves , that is also freedom to make that decision.  Hoping he falls hard.  Hes made a lot of money off the backs of parents that have lost their children in a terrible tragedy, theres a special place in hell for this fella.  

[Hunter007]

30 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

couldnt happen to a better guy - he is a POS!  Hope the families of Sandy Hook bankrupt him.  

There is free speech - he wasnt arrested - thats what free speech is about.  Doesnt mean what you say doesnt have consequences and that companies and people cant distance themselves , that is also freedom to make that decision.  Hoping he falls hard.  Hes made a lot of money off the backs of parents that have lost their children in a terrible tragedy, theres a special place in hell for this fella.  

But so has cnn and every other media network made money talking about sandy hook . And there not banned from youtube dont like it change the channel 

(Free speech is there to protect speech you dont agree with )

And who made cnn YouTube or apple the gods to decide what stuff is ok to listen to and what stuff is not ?

Are we living in the old USSR now . Cnn spins crazy conspiracy theories about trump and Russia all day long . Where is the ban ?  And when they decide  talking about anything to do with guns or hunting is offensive then what are you going to do because that is what they are going to try next almost guaranteed .

 

 

Edited August 7, 2018 by Storm914

[Hunter007]

Its up to the public to decide what YouTube channel you watch or what  podcast you listen to not some unelected company .

What they are doing is unconstitutional .   Unless he threaten somebody but I haven't seen any proof of that

Edited August 7, 2018 by Storm914

[Robhuntandfish]

12 minutes ago, Storm914 said:

But so has cnn and every other media network made money talking about sandy hook . And there not banned from youtube dont like it change the channel 

(Free speech is there to protect speech you dont agree with )

And who made cnn YouTube or apple the gods to decide what stuff is ok to listen to and what stuff is not ?

Are we living in the old USSR now . Cnn spins crazy conspiracy theories about trump and Russia all day long . Where is the ban ?  And when they decide  talking about anything to do with guns or hunting is offensive then what are you going to do because that is what they are going to try next almost guaranteed .

 

 

have you ever listened to what he has said???   He said the parents of Sandy Hook helped STAGE this tragedy , that it was a setup and never occurred etc.    He hounded the parents about it.  Its a LONNNGGG stretch to say CNN did anything like this.   You tube is not a god of anything they decided that it was in their best interest , which it is. Its no different than the whole arguement of the cake place not wanting to make a LGBT cake.  It is their business to decide.  Free speech does not mean you HAVE to post the ramblings of a crazy person who is taking a terrible tragedy to draw attention to himself. Hes a POS and who wouldnt want to get away from him.  Because you speak doesnt mean it doesnt come with reaction and consequences.   You tube doesnt want you to turn the channel - so therefore boot this guy.  No different than Brian Williams being booted from the news desk. He lied , they dont want to be associated with him so he was fired.  They dont want people to " Change the channel" its a business just like Utube is.  

[Hunter007]

8 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

have you ever listened to what he has said???   He said the parents of Sandy Hook helped STAGE this tragedy , that it was a setup and never occurred etc.    He hounded the parents about it.  Its a LONNNGGG stretch to say CNN did anything like this.   You tube is not a god of anything they decided that it was in their best interest , which it is. Its no different than the whole arguement of the cake place not wanting to make a LGBT cake.  It is their business to decide.  Free speech does not mean you HAVE to post the ramblings of a crazy person who is taking a terrible tragedy to draw attention to himself. Hes a POS and who wouldnt want to get away from him.  Because you speak doesnt mean it doesnt come with reaction and consequences.   You tube doesnt want you to turn the channel - so therefore boot this guy.  No different than Brian Williams being booted from the news desk. He lied , they dont want to be associated with him so he was fired.  They dont want people to " Change the channel" its a business just like Utube is.  

So you cant question the medias  narrative of what happen at sandy hook ? 

So what ever are governments say or cnn is always %100 right and anyone who dares question it is wrong crazy and nobody else can question it cnn  has guests on a regular basis that accuses the NRA of killing people and mass murder. 

But no ban there? 

The thing about the cake guy and LGBT was about freedom of religion.  

 

[Robhuntandfish]

8 minutes ago, Storm914 said:

Its up to the public to decide what YouTube channel you watch or what  podcast you listen to not some unelected company .

What they are doing is unconstitutional .  

What? .  U tube is not the government nor is it unconstitutional. So they also have to allow ANYTHING anyone wants to post?  Nazi propoganda, Child porn, - You do realize they also ban stuff everyday as well as facebook etc.   It is not up to them to offer everyones viewpoint - it is a business.  So if you ever owned a business - do you have to put on your bulletin board anything someone from the public wants - NO you dont and its not unconstiutional .  you need to read def of free speech  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/freedom of speech

[Robhuntandfish]

10 minutes ago, Storm914 said:

So you cant question the medias  narrative of what happen at sandy hook ? 

So what ever are governments say or cnn is always %100 right and anyone who dares question it is wrong crazy and nobody else can question it cnn  has guests on a regular basis that accuses the NRA of killing people and mass murder. 

But no ban there? 

The thing about the cake guy and LGBT was about freedom of religion.  

 

of course you can question - seriously have you listened to anything he has said?   He went after the parents for staging their childrens deaths...... and now you wonder why youtube wants nothing to do with him?  Why would you defend this guy?  Free speech again is not the freedom from repercussion, except from the government .......

[Hunter007]

14 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

What? .  U tube is not the government nor is it unconstitutional. So they also have to allow ANYTHING anyone wants to post?  Nazi propoganda, Child porn, - You do realize they also ban stuff everyday as well as facebook etc.   It is not up to them to offer everyones viewpoint - it is a business.  So if you ever owned a business - do you have to put on your bulletin board anything someone from the public wants - NO you dont and its not unconstiutional .  you need to read def of free speech  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/freedom of speech

Maybe you should read it again body  i could  easily say your speech right now is offensive and have you banned for not agreeing with me,  you cant have it both ways .

Unless you threaten someone with a crime .

Everything is protected underfree speech .

(Crimes, like Child porn are illegal)so that for example would not be protected under freedom of speech .

 

Edited August 7, 2018 by Storm914

[SteveB]

You know what Youtube, Facebook, this forum and everyone like it has in common?

None are required by the constitution to provide free speech. If you claim otherwise, it demonstrates your lack of understanding of the Bill of Rights.

And this belongs in the political section.

 

[Hunter007]

1 hour ago, Robhuntandfish said:

of course you can question - seriously have you listened to anything he has said?   He went after the parents for staging their childrens deaths...... and now you wonder why youtube wants nothing to do with him?  Why would you defend this guy?  Free speech again is not the freedom from repercussion, except from the government .......

He alex jones said he did not do  that and there is no video of it happening , And i have seen know videos of that just what cnn says which they hate him and cant be trusted btw .

Both sides lie but you want to make the left the ones to decide who can speak freely bad idea bro . They will come for your  guns and hunting next .

Edited August 7, 2018 by Storm914

[Robhuntandfish]

11 minutes ago, Storm914 said:

Maybe you should read it again body  i could  easily say your speech right now is offensive and have you banned for not agreeing with me,  you cant have it both ways .

Unless you threaten someone with a crime .

Everything is protected underfree speech .

(Crimes, like Child porn are illegal)so that for example would not be protected under freedom of speech .

 

if you owned the forum and were offended by it and wanted to ban me , i would say thats your right.  As again it is a business.  

[Robhuntandfish]

7 minutes ago, Storm914 said:

He alex jones said he did not to that and there is no video of it happing , And i have seen know videos of that just what cnn says which they hate him and cant be trusted btw .

Both sides lie but you want to make the left the ones to decide who can speak freely bad idea bro . They will come for you guns and hunting next .

https://www.politifact.com/texas/article/2018/apr/18/true-alex-jones-said-no-one-died-sandy-hook-elemen/

this has nothing to do with left or right - it has to do with morals.  Defend him all you like - hes a POS.  

And they are not coming for my guns cause Alex Jones is banned form you tube .  lol 

[Hunter007]

9 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

if you owned the forum and were offended by it and wanted to ban me , i would say thats your right.  As again it is a business.  

Is my offending you making you lose money ?  

If not and there is no specific thing i or you did  that violates  the user agreement of this forum then you cant really ban someone  for example. 

You think they  are banning him for sandy hook lol thats a excuse. 

They are banning him because he suports trump .  And powerful politicians ask them to ban him .

 

[Hunter007]

16 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

https://www.politifact.com/texas/article/2018/apr/18/true-alex-jones-said-no-one-died-sandy-hook-elemen/

this has nothing to do with left or right - it has to do with morals.  Defend him all you like - hes a POS.  

And they are not coming for my guns cause Alex Jones is banned form you tube .  lol 

See you just looking at what they  claim he  said but nobody can come up with a video of it . is the tape then ? That link does not work and you  need to see the whole episode not just  2 seconds of it either .

Edited August 7, 2018 by Storm914

[SteveB]

8 minutes ago, Storm914 said:

Is my offending you making you lose money ?  

If not and there is no specific thing i or you did  that violates  the user agreement of this forum then you cant really ban someone  for example. 

You think they  are banning him for sandy hook lol thats a excuse. 

They are banning him because he suports trump .  And powerful politicians ask them to ban him .

 

You can be banned from any forum just because the owner wants to for any reason. There is nothing in the Bill of Rights to stop it. Again NOTHING. Same as Youtube, FaceBook and every forum out there. To continue to say otherwise simply reinforces your total lack of understanding of the Bill of Rights. So by all means continue.

[Hunter007]

10 minutes ago, SteveB said:

You can be banned from any forum just because the owner wants to for any reason. There is nothing in the Bill of Rights to stop it. Again NOTHING. Same as Youtube, FaceBook and every forum out there. To continue to say otherwise simply reinforces your total lack of understanding of the Bill of Rights. So by all means continue.

So youtube apple  can ban someone for any reason including because there a white Christian or a muslim or black is that what you are telling me lol or if you dont agree with them .  Thats not the way it work here in this country . How old are you guys ? 

[Jeremy K]

Why stop at the second ,go for the first too.

[Robhuntandfish]

the moderators better watch it if they ever ban you for something you said cause you can take it to the supreme court in your eyes?  lol  

you just dont get free speech at all.  Can you say ANYTHING to your wife without repercussions?  Its free speech...... All it grants is that you wont go to jail......  So when a talk show host says something offensive and gets fired by the network - thats a violation of free speech?  thats what your telling me... Your correct that they can say anything they want without prosecution but it doesnt mean you wont be fired.   Go tell your boss anything you want..... and then if you get fired ,, its a violation of free speech????  lol good luck with that .  You also dont understand utube is a business not a right.  They sell advertising space etc.  So yes if enough people complain or stop watching it is in their best interest to dump this bum.   Or honestly if it just offends them and the board decides they can dump him and not violate free speech in the least as no changes were pressed againnst him of any kind... he wasnt thrown in jail.    

[Robhuntandfish]

8 minutes ago, Storm914 said:

So youtube apple  can ban someone for any reason including because there a white Christian or a muslim or black is that what you are telling me lol or if you dont agree with them .  Thats not the way it work here in this country . How old are you guys ? 

the color of a persons skin has nothing to do with free speech?  If a person of any race , creed or color says something there can still be repercussions.  He wasnt banned due to his race he was banned for his actions.  totally different.  

[Hunter007]

8 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

the moderators better watch it if they ever ban you for something you said cause you can take it to the supreme court in your eyes?  lol  

you just dont get free speech at all.  Can you say ANYTHING to your wife without repercussions?  Its free speech...... All it grants is that you wont go to jail......  So when a talk show host says something offensive and gets fired by the network - thats a violation of free speech?  thats what your telling me... Your correct that they can say anything they want without prosecution but it doesnt mean you wont be fired.   Go tell your boss anything you want..... and then if you get fired ,, its a violation of free speech????  lol good luck with that .  You also dont understand utube is a business not a right.  They sell advertising space etc.  So yes if enough people complain or stop watching it is in their best interest to dump this bum.   Or honestly if it just offends them and the board decides they can dump him and not violate free speech in the least as no changes were pressed againnst him of any kind... he wasnt thrown in jail.    

Jones does not work for apple or youtube or Facebook these are public platforms that people use to Express there opinions and ideas to like minded people  nobody pays you to use Facebook or post a video on YouTube.  Its free to post  and everyone is allowed to use it . Do you pay to post on youtube or Facebook? Nope 

 

[Hunter007]

11 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said:

the color of a persons skin has nothing to do with free speech?  If a person of any race , creed or color says something there can still be repercussions.  He wasnt banned due to his race he was banned for his actions.  totally different.  

Telling you what he believes or thinks about something is not action its just speech

Yea sure  he was not banned for supporting trump wink wink lol 

Edited August 7, 2018 by Storm914

[Robhuntandfish]

9 minutes ago, Storm914 said:

Jones does not work for apple or youtube or Facebook these are public platforms that people use to Express there opinions and ideas to like minded people  nobody pays you to use Facebook or post a video on YouTube.  Its free to post  and everyone is allowed to use it . Do you pay to post on youtube or Facebook? Nope 

 

its actually not public.   It is a private business that the public uses and if you notice all the advertising along the side that is how they stay in operation - the govt doesnt pay for it

[Robhuntandfish]

8 minutes ago, Storm914 said:

Yea sure  wink wink 

on that note - will leave you on your own.   Cause this is a debate we will never agree on obviously.  

[bugsNbows]

55 minutes ago, SteveB said:

You know what Youtube, Facebook, this forum and everyone like it has in common?

None are required by the constitution to provide free speech. If you claim otherwise, it demonstrates your lack of understanding of the Bill of Rights.

And this belongs in the political section.

 

This is very true.