crappyice Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 6:46 AM, The_Real_TCIII said: Unless this deer had priors his dna won’t be in the system Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProWhich will PROVE that he is not real!!! Haven’t you seen the latest Blacklist- that’s how they found the bad guy...sort of!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moho81 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Me thinks someone is jealous Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyice Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 What I really care about is how many pounds of sausage did he get and how did he cook the backstrap?!?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter007 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) On 2/10/2019 at 11:44 AM, Moho81 said: Me thinks someone is jealous Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Expand It wouldn't be the first time someone cheated in a sport to win money they have the DNA technology to tell if that deer came from that area so why not use it and silence all dought plus if the test comes out for real he will make even more money. Then if it is some inbred freaking Stein deer from a deer farm . Edited February 10, 2019 by Storm914 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hunter007 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) FSW said Yeah Ok. You keep telling yourself that. You really think they can just draw blood from 2 different animals and tell you one is from Maryland and one is from Ohio? All they can tell you is those 2 deer are not related. So if that buck was shot in Ohio but walked in from Pa before it was killed that deer would not be legit in your book? To answer your question what are the odds that a deer especially that one walk 300 miles from Ohio to PA or Maryland ? With out getting shot along the way or spotted in those states , And that type of behavior not being observed before in other deer ? you follow . Edited February 10, 2019 by Storm914 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 This Buck is a wild deer proven by the econ officer they have also found sheds of the deer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Season Whitetail's Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 2:02 PM, Storm914 said: FSW said Yeah Ok. You keep telling yourself that. You really think they can just draw blood from 2 different animals and tell you one is from Maryland and one is from Ohio? All they can tell you is those 2 deer are not related. So if that buck was shot in Ohio but walked in from Pa before it was killed that deer would not be legit in your book? To answer your question what are the odds that a deer especially that one walk 300 miles from Ohio to PA or Maryland ? With out getting shot along the way or spotted in those states , And that type of behavior not being observed before in other deer ? you follow . I don't know. Maybe ask Minnesota where the Mule Deer or the Antelope that were seen and shot in that state came from. Do some Research. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter007 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) On 2/10/2019 at 2:50 PM, Four Season Whitetail's said: I don't know. Maybe ask Minnesota where the Mule Deer or the Antelope that were seen and shot in that state came from. Do some Research. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Expand Those are mule deer Has that been observed ever before in the area this guy shot that whitetail deer See what I mean . DNA tests will sort that all out just like it did with the eastern coyote . Edited February 10, 2019 by Storm914 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Season Whitetail's Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 2:55 PM, Storm914 said: Has that been observed ever before in the area this guy shot that deer See what I mean . DNA tests will sort that all out just like it did with the eastern coyote .Bullshit. Your really stretching it here. Do some research before making yourself sound any worse then you already do. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter007 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) On 2/10/2019 at 2:58 PM, Four Season Whitetail's said: Bullshit. Your really stretching it here. Do some research before making yourself sound any worse then you already do. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Expand What's bullshit? That Whitetails don't migrate far ? https://ecosystems.psu.edu/research/projects/deer/news/2014/one-square-mile You sure about that FSW Some research for you You find some thing better let me know not because I am trying to make you look bad btw I am just interested in this stuff Edited February 10, 2019 by Storm914 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter007 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 https://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/field-notes/north-carolina-poacher-charged-after-faking-record-deer-screwing-on-rack They don't even bother to call in biologists to check out some of these record deer looks like . And that rack looks a lot like one I saw online from a deer farm some place coincidence ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter007 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 2:49 PM, Dom said: This Buck is a wild deer proven by the econ officer they have also found sheds of the deer. Expand Cool , then I guess it is legit just out of curiosity anyone have a article link about the process they go through to measure examine big record deer like that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marion Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 1:52 AM, crappyice said: FSB...4 Seasons BassSent from my iPhone using TapatalkWouldn't be surprised if you weren't wrongSent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 5:15 AM, crappyice said: If you are not convinced then you don’t have to contribute to the millions he will make. He will not care how you feelSent from my iPhone using TapatalkHe's too busy being afraid to hang out with cool dudes at a bar. Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter007 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) On 2/11/2019 at 12:12 AM, The Jerkman said: Wouldn't be surprised if you weren't wrong Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk Expand https://www-m.cnn.com/2013/04/25/health/national-dna-day-tests/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F https://www.popsci.com/cats-conquered-world Edited February 11, 2019 by Storm914 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter007 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) Here you go maybe I'm wrong dought it https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1995/03/02/dna-test-helps-snare-a-pair-of-deer-poachers/83175dc4-199a-45cd-a624-487fc4acc619/?utm_term=.6703d0ad173f Edited February 11, 2019 by Storm914 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Season Whitetail's Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 1:01 AM, Storm914 said: Here you go https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1995/03/02/dna-test-helps-snare-a-pair-of-deer-poachers/83175dc4-199a-45cd-a624-487fc4acc619/?utm_term=.6703d0ad173fExactly what I said. They dna'd the deers blood on the ground in one spot to the deer that was in another spot. Which of course told them the deer had to be killed where the blood was and taken from there. Sure as hell does not tell where that Buck lived or came from. It could have been shot in its tracks after walking 15 miles that day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I will have to let you know next season when I shoot the Momma deer and her fawn and see if their DNA is a match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter007 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) On 2/11/2019 at 1:06 AM, Four Season Whitetail's said: Exactly what I said. They dna'd the deers blood on the ground in one spot to the deer that was in another spot. Which of course told them the deer had to be killed where the blood was and taken from there. Sure as hell does not tell where that Buck lived or came from. It could have been shot in its tracks after walking 15 miles that day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Expand They can get DNA from hair bone teeth and horn urine and deer droppings not just blood . Easily found in the area around there I dougt I'm wrong that if they wanted to they could tell if that deer was from the area . https://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/02/science/02qna.html Edited February 11, 2019 by Storm914 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Season Whitetail's Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 1:41 AM, Storm914 said: They can get DNA from hair bone teeth and horn urine and deer droppings not just blood . Easily found in the area around there I dougt I'm wrong that if they wanted to they could tell if that deer was from the area . Dude give it up. Never heard of a deer being able to be dnaed to its surroundings. They have to have DNA from something to DNA something Else to that something. Hence they knew that buck killed was killed where it was killed. They dnaed his blood to him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter007 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 1:46 AM, Four Season Whitetail's said: Dude give it up. Never heard of a deer being able to be dnaed to its surroundings. They have to have DNA from something to DNA something Else to that something. Hence they knew that buck killed was killed where it was killed. They dnaed his blood to him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Expand Did you read up on all those articles I posted ? You don't need to find the parents The way the scientist would do the test is take DNA from a random sample of deer from the area either from blood bone teeth hair urine sheds around where that deer was shot something like a 10 or 20 mile radius the deer in that area will be closer genetically to each other then deer from say even 200 miles away . If that deer was truly born wild Its gentics will fall in the range of your random sample . That is basically how they would do the test. If the deer doesn't match closer to the random sample of your sample from the area Then you know something is wrong . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Season Whitetail's Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 2:07 AM, Storm914 said: Did you read up on all those articles I posted ? You don't need to find the parents The way the scientist would do the test is take DNA from a random sample of deer from the area either from blood bone teeth hair urine sheds around where that deer was shot something like a 10 or 20 mile radius the deer in that area will be closer genetically to each other then deer from say even 200 miles away . If that deer was truly born wild Its gentics will fall in the range of your random sample . That is basically how they would do the test. If the deer doesn't match closer to the random sample of your sample from the area Then you know something is wrong . Again Bullshit. If they pull a tooth from 10 deer standing outside your door they will come up with 10 different profiles unless some of those 10 are blood related. There is nothing in their DNA that will tell someone where a deer lives. I could drop the 11th deer in there from a total different state and that would just show an 11th different profile and nothing else in that deer would tell them that that 11th deer is or is not from the same woods the 10 came from. I have 27 deer dnad from 7 different states and deer farms and nobody could come here and DNA my deer back to those states or farms. Only DNA that could be done would be to blood relative's of deer in those states or farms. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter007 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 2:20 AM, Four Season Whitetail's said: Again Bullshit. If they pull a tooth from 10 deer standing outside your door they will come up with 10 different profiles unless some of those 10 are blood related. There is nothing in their DNA that will tell someone where a deer lives. I could drop the 11th deer in there from a total different state and that would just show an 11th different profile and nothing else in that deer would tell them that that 11th deer is or is not from the same woods the 10 came from. I have 27 deer dnad from 7 different states and deer farms and nobody could come here and DNA my deer back to those states or farms. Only DNA that could be done would be to blood relative's of deer in those states or farms. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Expand The disruption of genetics of deer in a certain area will not be random , studies show , deer don't travel far stay in a area generation after generation therefore deer in a certain area will have closer genetics then the deer far away . It can be mapped Don't believe me. read up on it That's all I can tell you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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