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--LEGAL BULLETIN SERVICE------------------#1

RE: BLACK POWDER - MUZZLE-LOADING WEAPONS BAN

PENAL LAW 265.01 (4), WHICH PROHIBITS A PERSON CONVICTED OF A FELONY OR SERIOUS OFFENSE FROM POSSESSING A RIFLE OR SHOTGUN HAS BEEN AMENDED TO INCLUDE WITHIN THE PROHIBITION AN ANTIQUE FIREARM, BLACK POWDER RIFLE, BLACK POWDER SHOTGUN, OR ANY MUZZLE-LOADING FIREARM. EFFECTIVE JANUARY 30TH, POSSESSION OF THESE WEAPONS BY A PERSON WHO IS CURRENTLY PROHIBITED, UNDER SUBDIVISION 4, FROM POSSESSING A RIFLE OR SHOTGUN, MAY BE ARRESTED FOR THE MISDEMEANOR CHARGE OF CRIMINAL POSSESSION OF A WEAPON IN THE FOURTH DEGREE.

THIS AMENDMENT WAS PASSED IN RESPONSE TO THE SHOOTINGS OF TROOP B TROOPERS AMANDA REIF IN 2007 AND GEORGE STANNARD IN 2008. BOTH TROOPERS WERE SHOT WITH MUZZLE-LOADING WEAPONS BY ASSAILANTS WHO WERE OTHERWISE PROHIBITED FROM POSSESSING RIFLES OR SHOTGUNS AT THE TIME OF THE ASSAULTS

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I have a good story for ya... I have a friend who at 17 took his 4-wheel drive pickup with a few friends to an out of the way place in NY to do some 4wheellin.... they decided to try and cross what they thought was a shallow pond... needless to say the truck would rather float than stay on the bottom and was swept out to deeper water where it eventually sank... little did they know... the pond was a federally protected wetland and they were arrested, charged and convicted of felony trespass for driving the truck in the pond... now my friend cannot legally own a gun.. although I would agree this was a tough lesson to learn... I have a hard time with losing your gun rights for that kind of thing.. especially at 17...

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ELMER J. FUDD Newbie

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--LEGAL BULLETIN SERVICE------------------#1

RE: BLACK POWDER - MUZZLE-LOADING WEAPONS BAN

PENAL LAW 265.01 (4), WHICH PROHIBITS A PERSON CONVICTED OF A FELONY OR SERIOUS OFFENSE FROM POSSESSING A RIFLE OR SHOTGUN HAS BEEN AMENDED TO INCLUDE WITHIN THE PROHIBITION AN ANTIQUE FIREARM, BLACK POWDER RIFLE, BLACK POWDER SHOTGUN, OR ANY MUZZLE-LOADING FIREARM. EFFECTIVE JANUARY 30TH, POSSESSION OF THESE WEAPONS BY A PERSON WHO IS CURRENTLY PROHIBITED, UNDER SUBDIVISION 4, FROM POSSESSING A RIFLE OR SHOTGUN, MAY BE ARRESTED FOR THE MISDEMEANOR CHARGE OF CRIMINAL POSSESSION OF A WEAPON IN THE FOURTH DEGREE.

THIS AMENDMENT WAS PASSED IN RESPONSE TO THE SHOOTINGS OF TROOP B TROOPERS AMANDA REIF IN 2007 AND GEORGE STANNARD IN 2008. BOTH TROOPERS WERE SHOT WITH MUZZLE-LOADING WEAPONS BY ASSAILANTS WHO WERE OTHERWISE PROHIBITED FROM POSSESSING RIFLES OR SHOTGUNS AT THE TIME OF THE ASSAULTS

Then ban the judge that let the perps back on the street in the first place.

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Good deal. NYantler- I'm a little surprised they don't have different classes of felonies- violent and non-violent. Perhaps there could be a distinction between the 2 as far as gun ownership. At the same time I have a hard time feeling sorry for someone with a felony conviction.

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I have a good story for ya... I have a friend who at 17 took his 4-wheel drive pickup with a few friends to an out of the way place in NY to do some 4wheellin.... they decided to try and cross what they thought was a shallow pond... needless to say the truck would rather float than stay on the bottom and was swept out to deeper water where it eventually sank... little did they know... the pond was a federally protected wetland and they were arrested, charged and convicted of felony trespass for driving the truck in the pond... now my friend cannot legally own a gun.. although I would agree this was a tough lesson to learn... I have a hard time with losing your gun rights for that kind of thing.. especially at 17...

There is no such thing as felony trespass in NYS.

140.15 - "A" misdemeanor

140.10 - "B" misdemeanor

140.05 - Violation.

Burglary is a felony

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that link did not work...but here is a quote from it....not sure Obama got this past but article written March this year....

Amash is correct in noting that the omission of the word "willfully" represents an unfair burden to the citizen. In legalese, this omission creates a situation where anyone can be charged with a federal felony for 'trespassing' on grounds shared by a person or group receiving Secret Service protection (including NSSE's); EVEN IF THE 'TRESPASSER' HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF SUCH PROTECTED PERSONS BEING PRESENT. In theory, anyplace where there is a protest could also be the setting for mass felony charges against constitutionally protected behavior such as the right to protest.
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The same part of the constitution that allows for laws to prohibit felons from owning any other type of gun.

If you want more detail than that, ask a constitutional lawyer. I can think of one that you may have heard of.

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I'm assuming you're just trolling at this point, because the constitution isn't a code of laws.

Errr, and I'm trolling? The Constitution isn't a code of laws? Then what praytell is it? A suggested guide? No, I know...it's a rough outline. So, it's not the Supreme Law of the Land, it's just a handy reference guide for how to run a Republic. Gotcha. Oh, and that little legislative rider on the tail end, those are privileges permitted the citizenry by the government, right? They aren't UNALIENABLE RIGHTS of man, they're revocable privileges administered by bureaucrats and subject to reinterpretation by the whim of the day, is that it?

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yup trolling for sure. Probably not a new one but an old one with a new name.

I found your site 2 days ago. I signed up because it seemed to be an amusing corner of the internet full of people proclaiming to be pro-gun/hunting/sportsmanship, but seem very inclined to support the same donkeydust that comes out of the mouths of retards like Carolyn McCarthy and Schumer. You are just fine with infringements on rights, just so long as they aren't YOUR rights. I'm reminded of some quotes, help me out here...one's got something to do with tempestuous seas of liberty and the other chains resting lightly upon you.

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