Same as bills introduced!

[G-Man]

Now is the time to call and answer polls on this important crossbow bill.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/A1299?utm_source=ny_state_senate&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=subscriptions&utm_content=NEW_SAME_AS

Edited January 10, 2022 by G-Man

[suburbanfarmer]

2 hours ago, G-Man said:

Now is the time to call and answer polls on this important crossbow bill.

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/A1299?utm_source=ny_state_senate&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=subscriptions&utm_content=NEW_SAME_AS

For those who will say TLDR ...

 

  a.  entitles  a  holder who is twelve or thirteen years of age to hunt
 wildlife, except big game, as  provided  in  title  9  of  this  article
 subject,  specifically,  to  the  provisions  of section 11-0929 of this
 article. It entitles such holder to  possess  firearms  as  provided  in
 section  265.05  of  the  penal law. [A holder who is twelve or thirteen
 years of age shall not hunt with a crossbow.]
   3. A bowhunting privilege when included on a hunting license  entitles
 a holder:
   (1)  who  is between the ages of twelve and sixteen years to hunt wild
 deer and bear with a longbow OR  CROSSBOW  during  the  special  archery
 season  and  during  the  regular season, as provided in title 9 of this
 article, subject to the provisions of section 11-0929 and subdivision  3
 of section 11-0713 of this article;
 
  EXPLANATION--Matter in ITALICS (underscored) is new; matter in brackets
                       [ ] is old law to be omitted.

[Steve D]

How can anyone wade through all that and try to make a decision on whether or not it is a good thing or a bad thing?

No wonder lawmakers can never get anything done. Always have to make things more difficult and complicated than they need to be. 

[G-Man]

We just received word that Senator Mannion introduced S7747 this week, It is the same as bill to the Woerner A 1299 Bills. These Bills will 
1) Change from Muzzleloader Privilege to Archery Privilege, 
2) Change Longbow Season to Special Archery Season and Include Crossbows
3) Allow 55 and older to use Crossbow in the Special Archery Season
4) Allow crossbow use in Special Archery Season with Dr Certification
5) Allow all Jr Hunters use a crossbow beginning at age 12
6) Reduce crossbow setback from 250 to 150 ft
7) Remove arbitrary 17” width and 200 lb max draw weight restrictions.

[ncountry]

1 hour ago, G-Man said:

We just received word that Senator Mannion introduced S7747 this week, It is the same as bill to the Woerner A 1299 Bills. These Bills will 
1) Change from Muzzleloader Privilege to Archery Privilege, 
2) Change Longbow Season to Special Archery Season and Include Crossbows
3) Allow 55 and older to use Crossbow in the Special Archery Season
4) Allow crossbow use in Special Archery Season with Dr Certification
5) Allow all Jr Hunters use a crossbow beginning at age 12
6) Reduce crossbow setback from 250 to 150 ft
7) Remove arbitrary 17” width and 200 lb max draw weight restrictions.

I'm not understanding completely. ? 

Is 1) saying that you can use mzl in special archery or is crossbow no longer under mzl and considered archery equipment, or something else entirely?. Lol

If 2) changes our archery (longbow) season to a special archery season that counts crossbows as legal implements. Then, What is the point of 3,4,or 5?

 

Either way, I'm 100% onboard with 3-7..

Edited January 13, 2022 by ncountry

[G-Man]

1 hour ago, ncountry said:

I'm not understanding completely. ? 

Is 1) saying that you can use mzl in special archery or is crossbow no longer under mzl and considered archery equipment, or something else entirely?. Lol

If 2) changes our archery (longbow) season to a special archery season that counts crossbows as legal implements. Then, What is the point of 3,4,or 5?

 

Either way, I'm 100% onboard with 3-7..

Basically.makes crossbow archery equipment .. amd archery course will then be required, the rest is just stating who  can use them and when.  

[ncountry]

10 minutes ago, G-Man said:

Basically.makes crossbow archery equipment .. amd archery course will then be required, the rest is just stating who  can use them and when.  

So not necessarily included in all of archery season , just in its own season and the specifically listed situations listed in 3 and 4.

[G-Man]

4 minutes ago, ncountry said:

So not necessarily included in all of archery season , just in its own season and the specifically listed situations listed in 3 and 4.

Included in all archery if you meet the 3 criteria, over 55, Dr note, youth.  ...so not for all, bur  once this is in the dec should be able to control other changes  the big thing is getting it made archery equipment.  

[Marion]

All I want is the end of the stupid draw weight and minimum width nonsense

https://www.instagram.com/thejerkman

#JerkmanCustoms
#WeDemandUnlimitedLikes

[nyslowhand]

Sounds like the very same bill that was introduced in 2015 and subsequent years since with NO actions taken. Let's just do the KISS strategy, turn over the control of all crossbow regulations to the DEC! Quite apparent our legislators have no clue and are unwilling to consider these Xbow bills. NYCC's strategy of trying to wear 'em down simply isn't working.

Edited January 14, 2022 by nyslowhand

[9jNYstarkOH]

Does this effect the current 2 week southern tier crossbow season besides having to take the archery course?