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Most times that I have seen the releases taking place its after shooting light. Next day its like a war zone. It gets scarry in some areas after the releases have taken place. I dont hunt on the weekends because of all the hunters. tuesday or wednesdays are usually pretty quiet but birds are few and far inbetween at that point but I would rather hunt fewer birds than be competeing with other hunters for the same bird and hitting the deck everytime a shot goes off lol.

Good post Doulos and I agree. I am against light arrows to begin with. The lighter the arrow the less penetration period. I remember years ago every archery shop that talked about hunting arrows say 500 plus grains. Now days I read about guys just hovering above 300 but dang those arrows are fast and I only need 1 pin to shoot out to 40 yards. Yep then the arrow hits a rib on entery and gets deflected missing vitals blah blah blah. My hunting shafts ready to go are 487 grains. I shoot fixed baldes with 4 inch vanes with a helical. I tried the blazers, 3inch vanes and a few others and nothing could get the arrow to fly like the 4 inch with helical. There are alot of things that take place when that release is pulled and a properly tuned bow is key to making a fixed blade fly true. There have been so many advances in bows over the years and I think alot of them have favored to the guys who do not know or cannot tune there bows on a regular basis. Single cams got rid of the need to make sure your cams were timed to each other properly for example. Mechanicals also took away the need to properly tune a bow to get your hunting arrows to fly true. I also still wonder how many people actually tune there arrows. Remember the old water bath trick. Put your shaft in a tub of water and watch it spin to the same spot ever time mark the high side on each arrow and fletch them identical. What about fletching lining up with the blades on a broadhead. Every half dozen of arrows I have ever bought from the aluminum days to the carbon craze atleast one but most times 2 of them are way off compared to the others. Mark your arrows with numbers and keep an eye to see if there is a pattern that develops with an arrow that seems to shoot off compared to the rest. I could go on for pages on tuning a hunting setup.

Only landowner doe permits for 6k. Do you own enough land there to get one? I live in 6k on over 100 acres I get a doe permit every year. I have no desire for a xbow. If it the gun season im going to use my rifle, if I wanted to use a bow I would use my compound.... If it or when it become a legal implement in archery I will use my bow. Why would I go out and spend another grand on equipment to hunt in a season I have equipment that is more than capable of harvesting deer year after year? I dont have any ill thoughts towards the guy that wants one its just makes no sense to me to buy one. I have a hard enough time trying to decide what stand to sit in when I get up let alone having to add what weapon Im going to use in what stand. LOL

True you need to get into the upper areas of region 7 to get into the higher oak tree count. I remember after a few years down to camp on some state land that borders mine in the lower end of 7 I found 2 mature white oak trees standing side by side in the summer with acorns on them. I was excited I had a prime spot in the middle of state land. It was premo lol. Then the state came in late summer and cut them down and let them lay on the ground to rot for habitat improvement. What BS that was, yeah habitat improvement so lets cut down 2 nut producing trees that feed the habitat.

Not to get off topic, now thats a dumb phrase since I am getting off topic lol. I am truly amazed at how many people love to barder with me for syrup. Seeing how the stuff is so expensive to buy and make I have struck some great deals over the years for my syrup. Heck this year alone I got 10 full cords of firewood for a gallon. Dont know what that guy was thinking but it was his idea lol. Syrup is a great gift and Im not just saying that cause I am a maple producer people just love the stuff more than they can afford it most times. Back to the topic...... I would personally offer them syrup as a gift and then offer them some packaged meat from any harvest you get off the land if they want or eat it. Whatever you decide just show them you are passionate about getting the permission and treat them right. Something fromt he heart you know. Something that maybe took some of your own sweat and tears to get or make. A gift certificate to me is to cheesy but thats just me. If they are religious people I think a more meaningfull gesture would go farther. Also I would put them on the christmas card list and easter card list etc to show them you indeed appreciate them letting you hunt there land. It also keeps you in touch so your not forgotten for the next guy that comes pulling in the driveway.

You know you shouldnt be putting your trail cameras up inside that fence at the deer farm you went to dont you? lol My god your piece of hunting heaven has some great bucks on it. You are one lucky hunter to have that kind of potential in your back pocket.

It is definatly the well within the time frame that I see the better bucks down to camp during the bow season. I am the only one who sits all day on a regular basis there for bow. I think there are a few things that come into play with that time frame. I cannot recall the exact time but I read an article from a biologist that studied whitetail habits and the claim is a deer will not and does not sit all day long. They need water, food, and bathroom breaks. At some point in the day the deer will get up and move to fulfill those needs. And then theres the hunting pressure that might push them in the area as well. It was not until I read that article years ago that I started sitting all day and started seeing more activity during the miday than the morning atleast. And it is the time I see the better deer. I think some of it has to do with just what you said, the deer patterning the hunter. What I do most of the time is get down from my morning hunt and have another hunter at the camp go in with me to one of my stands I will sit till dark and once Im setup He will walk back out and go to camp and nap with the rest of them. I think or hope what this does is confuse any deer that might have pinpointed me coming in the woods thinking I have left and ease there suspition a little. I think out of all the seer I have shot very very few of them have come in the morning and most are mid day and on.

Well I look at it this way. I eat deer, coyotes eat deer, therefore coyotes are my competition. Compeition needs to go lol.

I dont understand your question, region 7 includes Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Cortland, Madison, Onondaga, Oswego, Tioga, and Tompkins Counties. You got an area in particular? I hunt in cortland and oswego counties and I havent seen oaks in ten years not produce the past 10 years.

Some nice mounts there guys. It does however remind me of a story lol. One of my old bosses always talked about going deer hunting but had never been due to he had noone to show him the ropes or where to even start. Of course I lend him some advice and some company afield to get him on the right track. We go out for his very first time and he shoots a dandy 10 pt. after all is said and done he says that was awesome but I dont think I will do it again. IM like what the hell you talking about you just shot one hell of a buck and you are giving it up already. Old boss says yeah I wanted a challenge and this is to easy. To my knowledge he has never hunted again. I often wondered from that day forward how some of these guys who drop a once in a lifetime deer their first year mentally hunt from there on out. Are their expectations set even higher or do they realize it was a lucky day afield? Took me 6 years to get my first deer with a bow and have been succesful filling that tag ever since gun took me 2 years to fill my first tag. Amazing pictures, my first one I had mounted I took with my dad. Nice wide 7 point with no brow tines go figure but if it was a spike I probably would have mounted it since my dad worked so much to feed us kids and roof over our heads we didnt get much time together in the woods, it was the most memorable and best hunts of my life. I have no digital pictures of him one of these days I will take a picture of him on my wall.

Im trying to figure out how you got a climbing treestand up the tree with no one in it or better yet how did you get out of it? lol

LMAO,, wow thats a big one is it a doe or a buck fawn. If you got to ask if its a fawn then it aint a big one. Then the dude ask did you have a hard time tracking it.

I read on another hunting forum that theres something going on in NJ with deer mortalitites and One guy posted it and no one else had heard anything either. Makes you wonder whats going on.

From My understanding the crossbow not being allowed was a mistake made in the 3rd ammendmant to the rifle bill. If you followed that bill from the start you would notice there was many errors with it along the way and each ammendmant that they corrected the mistake in they made another. It was reconized as a mistake and the process to change it back is more time consuming to get the bill corrected before the hunting season takes effect. You will see the change in next years regulations that allow the crossbow during regular season if they dont have their own season by then. Part of this was from nonhunters making hunting laws that have no idea what they are talking about let alone catch a mistake they wouldnt even know was made. What I dont understand is why the DEC does or did not read the ammendmant before it was set out to be signed by the governour. By the way anyone can receive these email notifications from the DEC you just need to contact them and sign up to receive them.

Depends are they red oaks or white oaks? If they are red oaks I would cut them if they are white oaks I would leave them.

On the old setup no matter how many times I clicked the box for not getting email notifications I still got them. The new site I dont get them now and I like it that way. lol NIce work on the new site.

Well being a Maple syrup producer I have to say Pure NY State Mpale Syrup and a bag of New Hope Mills pancake mix is the way to go. I have one place in Marthas Vineyard that rents out there Mansion and guest house and they make up gift baskets of my syrup and new hope mills pancake mix and they tell me its a huge hit. Still got lots of syrup left looking for a good home lol.

Hard to say still being in velvet but I guess mid to high 130's

I have a huge amount of apple trees in one section of my woods. Yes the trees are loaded this year but the size of them are rather small but the biggest problem is most of them are on the ground already so come opening bow the crop will be already gone or rotten. The oaks however not looking so good this year.

I cant think of any. She who must be obeyed is a great lady and has never ever questioned or asked me not to go hunting. I dont tell her what to do and she doesnt tell me what to do. We have alot of respect for each other. I bust ass all year long for work and home improvements and all the wood cutting and the maple farm in the spring. My life is jammed pack until fall and then its my time in the woods either by myself or with one of the kids tagging along. The only negative thing I can thing of is my attitude when I blow a shot lol.

They are working for me but what it does not let me do is add a picture to my signature. Keeps coming back unable to load picture. I give up I tried several different pictures I guess I will stick with the white ghost man. lol

You want a smart phone thats is a hunters and fishermans best friend? Casio's Gzone comando. Water proof, dust proof shock proof glass is shatterproof. I have owned nothing but the vitualy indestructable Gzone phones from verizon since they first came out. I now have the camando and its the cats ass. touch screen, lots of apps, compass, temperature, lots of other stuff, picture is just as good as an Iphone to boot. I ran mine over the other day with the log trailer full of about 1 and 1/2 cords of wood and you wouldnt now it. I love it for its waterproofing as well. No worries about rain or dropping it in the water either. I actually wash mine in the sink when it gets dirty. Trust me you will love it.

Oooops never mind different fish lol. Either way though that is not a huge chinook, average yes huge no.

Okay thats all wrong. It was not a chinook "king" salmon. Buffa thought it was a coho and that it would break the record but after it was looked at by a biologist it was confirmed as a hybrid salmon. A coho that was fertilized by a chinook salmon. 35 pounds for a coho is huge 35 pounds for a chinook not so much.

Its back lol. Sorry guys but I have to throw some updates to some findings I noticed today. The magazine NY Game and FIsh now have an X BOW XTRA section in it, 16 pages of the 64 it published in the september issue is all about Xbows. I found it quite odd that they refer to the compound bow as a veticle bow now in that section and the last thing I noticed and I feel its a rediculous overkill but Parker bows has a new crossbow out called the Concorde. If you havet heard about it, well its an automatic cocking crossbow. All you do is push a button to activate a co2 cartridge to cock the thing in 2 seconds. So my fellow hunting friends we now have automatic crossbows. What next?