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State has helped fund rifle plant Ilion facility has guns for police, military Michael Virtanen Associated Press ALBANY — New York state has spent nearly $6 million over the past three years on subsidies for a two-century-old upstate factory that makes fire­arms including semiauto­matic rifles used by the military and police and like those used in the re­cent killings in Webster and Connecticut. Though several elect­ed leaders in this tough­on- guns state want tighter restrictions on those mili­tary- style weapons, none say it’s time to stop sup­porting Remington Arms Co. and risk the nearly 1,000 jobs it provides in the central New York community of Ilion. The gunmaker has plenty of defenders, particularly those who support the continued manufacture of weapons used by the mil­itary or police. In 2010, Empire State Development, the agency that works with private companies to attract and retain jobs, announced $2.5 million in grants and subsidies to help Reming­ton bring its Marlin lever­action gun production from Connecticut to Ilion and add 100 jobs. That fol­lowed two grants in 2009 worth $3 million for reno­vations and machinery. “It was never the de­sire of the state of New York to subsidize the de­velopment of the sort of tactical weapons that end­ed up being used in Con­necticut and now, I under­stand, in upstate New York as well,” said Assem­blyman Charles Lavine, a Long Island Democrat. “By tactical weapons, I’m talking about a rifle such as the Bushmaster.” In 2011, Bushmaster Firearms moved manu­facturing operations from Maine to Ilion, where Remington now makes Bushmaster guns. No state money was used in that transfer, which brought more than 40 jobs. Police said Bushmas­ter military-style rifles were used to kill 20 school children and seven adults in Newtown, Conn., and to kill two volunteer fire­fighters and seriously wound two others Mon­day when they responded to a blaze in Webster. Police have not said where the guns used in the shootings were manufac­tured. It’s possible they were made in Maine be­fore operations moved to New York; Remington also has one other produc­tion plant in Hickory, Ky., according to the compa­ny’s website. A spokeswoman for U.S. Sen. Charles Schum­er said he has consistently said that he believes it’s appropriate for lawmak­ers to support production of semiautomatic assault­style weapons for mili­tary and law enforcement use, but that the guns don’t belong in the hands of civilians. Schumer, who has helped Remington se­cure Army contracts in­cluding an $8.9 million award in 2011 to produce 1,212 M24 sniper rifles, joined the company at last year’s event announcing the move of Bushmaster to Ilion. Since the Newtown shootings, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo has said better gun control should be addressed first with federal legislation, noting New York already has some of the toughest gun laws and many of the guns used in crimes come from out of state. He added that the state ban on so-called assault weapons has “sig­nificant loopholes,” in­cluding allowing large-ca­pacity magazines made before 1994. “Much of the law’s on the cosmetics of the gun, the design of the gun, rather than the actual ca­pacity of it, so there’s no question but that the law needs to be improved, in my mind,” he said. New York law general­ly prohibits possession of an assault weapon or large-capacity magazine, felonies punishable by up to seven years in prison. An assault weapon is de­fined as a semiautomatic rifle that can use a detach­able magazine and has at least two of these other characteristics: folding stock, pistol grip, bayonet mount, flash suppressor or grenade launcher. Police said the Bush­master that William Spengler used to kill two firefighters in an ambush Monday was equipped with a flash suppressor, which makes it harder for a potential target to see the flash of light emitted from the end of the rifle barrel when a round is fired. Many of the Bush­master rifles advertised also have pistol grips. “I think much more has to be done on assault weapons, quote unquote, starting with the point: How do you define an as­sault weapon?” Cuomo said. He promised his gun proposal in his State of the State Address on Jan. 9. Cuomo spokesman Richard Azzopardi said subsidies to Remington were awarded under the previous administration and that are no pending requests for future aid. Assemblyman Marc Butler, a Republican who represents Ilion, said that Remington makes guns that are legal and that the company and the commu­nity are getting “a bad rap.”

Some beautiful racks !

Get paid for three give the rest for free ! I don't think any criminals will be turning in their guns .

The video is too long . Got the idea with the 1st grind !

I have to take my son into Rochester at 6 am to catch the Megabus back to NYC . I used the snowthrower on the driveway last night but have quite a bit more now . It's blowing like mad but i'm not about to wake the neighborhood by running it now . The wind is blowing pretty hard right now .

For those of you who own the Savage 220 slug gun , what scope and mounts are you using ?

Let's see what Growalot has to say ............... hmmmmmmmmm !

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Many of the reporters don't have any idea about guns . One of the guys on YNN news today mentioned that one of the guns the Webster shooter ( Spengler ) had was a "Mossberg 12 gauge rifle" . A 12 gauge rifle ???

It's too close to the X-way and Medical buildings . You would either be shooting toward the road or buildings . It wouldn't be safe .

Our Late Bow and ML season ended Dec 18 ....... You must be in Westchester County . Suffolk County ?

After visiting my daughter in West Irondequoit , we headed for Henrietta to have dinner and presents with my 2 sister in laws . Took 590 to 390 and when heading West and past Winton Road exit , there were at least 15 turkeys near the road and in the field there were 6 doe . Too bad it can't be hunted .

I got a couple of DICKs gift cards and my wife gave me $300 towards purchasing a gun that my sons told her I need . Oh , I also got another gift certificate to Beikirchs .

This might be the sign

Not a member of NYB and don't plan to be . Can you post the article on here ?

I have caught his show a couple times and he's a real Twit ! What's with these Brits ( there are several others ) on the TV stations over here ? Yes , he has a right to his views on gun control but he's still a twit .......... Can't stand his show . Never sure if he believes what he says or if it's just an act to get a rise out of folks .

I never cared for Fords but we got a lot of good years out of that car . I couldn't find a pic of a deer on the Chevette that we had . As for the sleeping bag in one of the pics , I got it from the Marine Corps and used it in my stand in the woods when it was sub zero weather . I was able to handle the freezing weather using it plus it was handy to prop up a deer's head for pictures .

Black Rifle Mania ----- I bought a Black composite stock and forearm for one of my NEF single shots . I wonder if that will be considered Bad now !

Some deer before I acquired a Pu to haul them

1st Bow kill

My 1st deer kill in 1967

Most of my guns are locked with trigger locks and many with those locks are also locked in a case or gun safe . I purchased several of the "keyed alike" locks so I wouldn't need so many keys . Which reminds me , I have to move my carry pistol as the grandkids will be coming here the 24th and 25th .

And what would happen if someone misspelled words and used incorrect grammar ........ whoa , think of the repercussions !

My son called one of the Crossbow manufacturers two years ago and asked why the scope was a 1X rather than magnified . The response was " the guys go to the range outside the plant and shoot softball size groups at 100 yards without magnification " . This is with a 405 fps crossbow . I have no idea what the KE might be at that distance . Suillebhain -- didn't Mel Gibson say something in the movie PATRIOT like , "Buy Cheap , Shoot Cheap" !

Gun locks ? Trigger locks are only a deterrent . I couldn't find the key to one of my trigger locks and was going to take the gun out to shoot . It only took a couple minutes to drill the lock and remove it . I also have locks on the gun cases but the cases are plastic . I doubt it would take much to break the plastic near the lock and remove the gun .