Bought a used tree climbing stand , didnt bother too learn how to use it , didnt bother to find a good tree before opening day .... go in the woods opening day at oh dark thirty picked a tree (unfortunately the kind that has bark peeling off) make it up about 30 feet , turn around search for strap in , cant find it , stay still wait till sun comes up , look down see strap in on ground , spend 3 hours nervous as hell , sold climbing tree stand bought ladder stand !