First-light

Tomorrow the DEC will institute the new guide rules for deer hunting in NYS. How do I know this…..I don't just making it up. What I want to know is what you would settle for in your region. State you region and one of the scenarios in the article but not no change. Mine is for 8P we have a pretty good deer herd and a lot of bucks around. They didn't give many doe permits this year. I would vote for the 1 buck rule.

Love the taste of venison.

add 5 to that list for 6 of us. Should be great. My brother and hid daughter were out yesterday I want to say spot 45 on Middle Country road. They saw plenty of sign. His daughter saw a doe and my brother saw a nice 8 pt very dark rack. Both deer were in thick stuff leading to no shot.

It's a choice and the choice most take is shooting whatever they please which is totally within the legal boundaries. I understand what your saying but you paint with a broad brush. There are many circumstances that lead to shooting a young buck. My brother shot a small buck on his last hour of his hunting upstate this year. He knew he wasn't coming back and didn't have any meat. Stayed on stand all day in miserable weather. Now I ask that if you break your cherry on a buck please shoot something bigger next year. I was ok with this because I know how much his family enjoys the meat. My brother in law is in your camp. He has a nice piece of property that he imposes AR's upon. He lets walk some really nice 2.5 year olds looking for a really mature stud. He will shoot a few doe during the year. I have to give him credit because we both know when he is at work during the week the place next to him gets pushed by the locals all the time. Out of town leaser that owns it and it is a major bedding area. He knows that some of those deer he passes get shot. My first reaction to this news was don't tell me what I can shoot. After digesting the information I think I'm more concerned with the amount of doe and button bucks that may be taken. I don't want to see what happened in PA. Then again on my other post I want to see my out of state buddies get a shot at a DMP. Oh boy there is a lot going on here……………...

Bill, I have been thinking about the same thing. I don't want to layout a grand for the thing. I have noticed on other forums and Craigs list crossbows for sale. Give it a shot maybe you will find a nice used one.

Found it online.

No not available in 8P.

Here is a real scenario in my neck of the woods . The hunting camp next to me has 90% of them coming from out-of-state. Out of 10 of them only 3 get doe tags because they are land owners. They hunt for meat, any buck will do. Of course shooting a big one is nice. If AR's were put in place I would hope the dec would include out-of-state hunters in the DMP lottery to keep them coming back. If this isn't the case we may lose more hunters.

Why a none frost free freezer? Just asking.

You give them too much credit. During the rut they are stupid! Over the years I have seen mature bucks out in the open during the middle of the day, during a rain storm and such. Know your food source also, them boys got to eat!

9 months pregnant and out hunting and to boot, camping. You got lucky with your hunt she on the other hand is something special!!! If she heard you calling her your "ball and chain" and "my woman" I bet she would pop you! lol Congrats on the hunt!

Eat it!!

I agree Doc the thread is good one. Let's face it, this is not about introducing a crossbow into season or changing DM zones. This is about taking away our right to shoot certain animals in the herd. Taking away our right………….

A deer is an animal that gets educated by us humans as it gets older. If the situation is right that old 4.5 year old will be as easy as killing a yearling. If the situation is right killing that yearling will be just as hard as to kill a 4.5 year old buck. You can sit and wait on the ground or better yet go up a tree. You can track a buck for miles and hopefully get a look at him in the distance. You the hunter make it what it is. No right or wrong, its what you get out of it. I have had hunters shoot a mature buck 10 minutes into their first hunt ever. They had the deer mounted and hung up the gun never to hunt again. That hunter never got anything out of the experience. Those who hardly see deer but go back year after year, they get something out of it. I just hope the changes that are coming do not sway the younger and old timer hunters away from the sport. That would be two resources we can't lose..

Yes

Sad yes but what tough amazing animals.

60's I think? This thing is still a baby…..so don't shoot it! lol

The link to NYON article http://www.outdoornews.com/January-2015/Deer-regs-changes-in-motion/

Unfortunately this is all out of our hands. Yes a survey goes out and it is provided by a credible institution. The DEC will do what it wants to do. Nobody likes change that is for sure, It is what it is. We had the crossbow introduced this year……no big deal. Youth hunting season seems to be doing fine….no big deal. Ok DEC what will it be for next year, maybe nothing…….

I have shot some big bucks. My place is 6 hrs away from home. I have limited time hunting. If it is coming down to the end of the season and I have no venison in the freezer I will shoot a small buck. There have been times I see doe opening day then nothing for a number of hunts. I would rather shoot a doe but if a small buck comes along he is dead. Limited time hunting + limited deer sightings + end of season = brown its down.

Thank you. Yeah that is probably not going to happen again for a long time. lol

In about a week we should package this thread up in a PDF and send it to the DEC.

I heard the same thing from hunters that used to to hunt PA every year before ar was introduced. Just like you spelled it out same exact story.

33.8 lbs

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