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Wow look at that lobster claw!

I don't even think that deer was spine shot. There isn't any point in the video where you see any entry or exit holes. The back left leg looks broken. If you shoot a deer in the spine the back legs would not be moving. I also think these two idiots rehearsed the video. Look at when ramidick walks up to the deer he doesn't miss a beat when stepping on the deers back leg to keep him from moving. These two idiots did too good of a job to get it right the first time.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass!

Gunner looks good for 15, does he still go at it (hunt rabbits that is.)

Here is Mac doing what he loves best "Hunting!" He is a 3 year old Wheaten Terrier who loves being in the woods!

Ha-love it!

Really? over a video? i dont get why this argument is even still going on... If you agree with what you saw leave it at that, its really crazy to see guys like you result to personal stabs on others in here. And for what to stir the pot? do it else where... Geno, I agree personal stabs are not good and I am guilty of one in this thread. (I said those two jokers would be looking for road kill on rt 17 with the coyotes.) This is our identity as hunters and it's taking a hit in this video. I will do anything in my power to defend ethical hunting. When I see crap like that video it makes me boil and to have two people identify with it in such ways is an outrage. As this thread goes on it seems to me that these two guys don't belong here and really have nothing to do with hunting. Two guys looking to stir up anything they come upon.

Thanks Steve-I got it. They aren't like you say- I'll put that to rest.

Funny-I was wondering why the guy who owned my land before me only had up "No Trespassing" signs. Maybe that was it!

Silence breeds assent-get "it"

Funny Wooly! They don't get it and never will.

Pretty ironic he is writing this. Hope he gets its right.

Blur and Packrats- sorry Pat Rockets, There's a couple of coyotes waiting for you to cruise Rt 17 for road kill-have at it! Sorry you guys are f-ing idiots.

I agree with you Steve, Zumbo got the shaft and it wasn't right. Common ground is good it makes things happen.

So why are you defending the video???? I don't give a crap how long it took you to "get your kill on video" or how happy you were. it has nothing to do with this video. Your going in circles man.

Your right Doc, it's a two way street and at some point you may have to make a U turn on some issues or maybe pull off the road and think for a while. I wish the Cuomo all the luck in the world, tough times right now. "If" this recovery really starts taking hold this year and we keep on adding jobs, well the next Presidential election won't be any different than the last. JMHO

That is funny!

Wow, it wasn't. The person they say has mental issues.

Geno, If the property doesn't come with the mineral rights you better put in clauses into the deed. No drilling closer than x amount of feet from any dwelling. Those type of things. Google Marcellus shale gas deposite in NY. If you going for land in the Catskills or further west (deposit) expect to pay premium prices. All this land sits in the core area of the gas deposit. Mineral rights for land are very important right now so read up on it.

Conflicting reports, this is not what this country needs right now. Prayers are with them.

Same here Eddie, time will tell.

Had the same Jeep for years, put 200,000 miles on it and I think she is still running the roads in Western NY. I feel for you it's nerve racking experience.

There is a right way and a wrong way of going about your business as a hunter. As hunters we form a diverse group of individuals that make us strong. These guys are hunters but they are also our weakest link. It's a shame they carry the same name as us and that's why "we" the ethical hunters must defend our position at all times. Blur and Packrocket you don't get it.

Glad the two of them are OK! Those Jeeps are tough and get some rest!