My father and myself both have remington 870's. We call em BrushBuster, and BrushBuster 2. For very good reasons. I dont think those guns have missed a deer in the brush more than 3 times over ten plus years. In the wide open now thats a different story lol. Thick brush is always a no no, and obviously we dont want to take shots into minimal brush, but it happens and weve got alot of venison to prove it.