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Guess that is why he didn't want anyone to even try. LOL

Very cool. You two make a darn good team.

Nice room corner you have there. All great memories I bet.

Ship it machinist. It would be a huge stretch to argue you are a commercial seller of ammo.

Be nice if it was introduced before the session is over like last year.

My wife was the same way. I hung it before she came home one night and then explained how much work went into killing that deer and that it provides great memories of the season. She relented. Have a serious conversation with her and be reasonable about where you hang it.

I am a Gen Xer - don't even know what EDM stand for. You young-uns.

The burden of proving an allegation is on the one who makes it Stubby. It doesn't fall on others to prove him wrong. And, I suspect you recognize this, but your generalizations only further the division in the sport - to the extent it exists. They are not constructive. You have the freedom to say what you please, but should be aware of how others perceive your statements. They are a reflection on you and no one else. If you are happy with that reflection, then continue on. I am sure there are gun only hunters that think like you, generalize, and think all or most bowhunters to be a negative for hunting, just like I am sure that there are many that judge someone based on stereotypes, etc. without knowing the person. Its sad really, but it happens. I could claim that anyone that lives in NYC is loud and obnoxious, prove me wrong. The statement would be a silly generalization in the first place and cannot be proven wrong. Its nothing more than an opinion and narrow-minded one at that.

I don't have it in hand, but the seller has assured me its mine and we agreed on the price. He is an older collector and is slow to move so I don't push. I told him last week that a member on here generously sent me a box of 250 ammo (thanks again JJB). He reconfirmed that the gun is mine and I will have it before the season. Good enough, he is true to his word and I can wait. Assuming Livingston goes rifle, I will have a couple of cooler older guns with open sights to hunt with next season (win 100 and M99). The win is being worked over by a gunsmith now to ensure it will function like new. I am excited.

Well Phade, with you, Culver, and WNYBH on the evil side and me on the good side, you need to identify 6 more of you lousy bowhunters to make quota.

look good

Understand your point Doc, but what are you suggesting is the solution? I would suspect that any gun hunter with sufficient desire to hunt in the early season would learn to use a bow. That's what prompted me. If not sufficiently motivated, then does one really have a reason to complain? That's an "I am taking my ball and going home" mentality. Regarding hunting programs, if I were producing a hunting show, my first thought would be "who am I marketing this show to?" It could be the largest demographic (all hunters) or the demographic group that has shown the most interest and would be likely viewers - that may very well be those that were sufficiently motivated to learn to shoot a bow. I don't really know, but am curious as to how you would address the increasing resentment you perceive between gun only and bowhunters. I don't believe the desire for big horns is limited to bowhunters and, even if it were, then the gun only hunters would not care whether they had first crack at those deer in the first place. If they do care (and I will admit I want to shoot a nice buck), then take advantage of that season by learning the weapon allowed. I did that with both bow and MZ not because I had any particular desire to learn how to shoot those weapons at the outset. I wanted to hunt whenever I could - that's it. Admittedly, I much prefer bow season now. Not because I think I may shoot a better buck, but because I prefer the quiet woods and opportunity to hunt an animal that is not hiding or running for its life from the volley of shots. I also don't belittle the gun only hunters and join right in when the season allows. BTW - anyone that bases arguments on stereotypes will not typically be convinced otherwise no matter how logical the opposing argument in any event. That is not the mark of an open mind.

I don't know enough about the evolution of the hunting seasons in NY to comment on whether there is favoritism towards bowhunting. Happy to be educated. I can read stubby's post and since it takes no special skill to kill deer with a bow, then he certainly has the same opportunity as any other bowhunter and could be a model to those he thinks are ruining the sport. The x-bow likewise opens further opportunities. Regardless, the idea of generalizing that 90% of bowhunters think this way or that is ridiculous and undermines any argument that he is trying make. It would be no different than someone stating that 90% of gun only hunters are lazy slobs. Lacks credibility.

congrats - nice bird

Shoot the BHs. If you can get everything to group decent out to 40 or 50, I wouldn't worry about it. I learned that even changing how I relax my wrist or place my thumb on the release side can have a big impact on POI. Find whatever is consistent and most accurate for you. Shooting MOA with a bow isn't that hard even if form isn't perfect and you don't need to shoot even that well to kill deer. Now if you were shooting Vegas spots, that's a whole different story. Those Xs make my vision blurry. lol Again JMO

I just carry the real lawyer's bag. BTW - you are in that 90%. I fall in the good 10% he mentioned.

Thank you for proving the point. As we say "your witness". Lol

Good idea CF. Thanks for the info.

BTW CF - how do you get a little one into a stand? I would be scared to death that she would hurt herself.

She really wants to hunt with me. I may have to set up a blind this next season and bring her along a few times hopefully just to see a deer. I am blessed having a daughter that is taking an interest in my hobbies. She likes "lifting weights" too, although its usually her rearranging my 5 and 10lb plates while I train.

You said earlier that you have nock 1/8" high so the high tear is to be expected and not necessarily something to worry about. The right tear could be a concern but also could be form and have nothing to do with the bow tune. Most right handers will torque bow to the left to some extent creating that right tear. In the end, you said Lawdaz confirmed arrow flight looked good and that you were shooting well out to distance. If the BH and FP are hitting together, I would leave it alone and assume its form related. Checking clearance is always a good idea, but if you were hitting, that tear would be bad for sure. JMHO

Man you like to take unwarranted shots at bow hunters Stubby. You realize that when you make such generalized characterizations, you lose credibility. Just an observation.

Thx Law

I get a big kick out of her WNYBH. She is far more interested in hunting than my 12 year old son. Who would have guessed.

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