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Here's the next jawbone. Full 6 teeth so it's at least 1.5 yrs old (adult deer). What's the age for this one? Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

You got it. Can't really putt to save my life either. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

I was going to comment on that but didn't. For all I know he just likes a 6 versus a spike and age wasn't really a concern. To me it doesn't make a difference a yearling is a yearling from a biology stand point. Hard to say the 6 or spike would be any bigger than the other. whatever kind of start it had in life has a lot to do with what it sports early before it's had a chance to grow a little. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

grow has it. not all the teeth are grown in yet, indicating it's less than 1.5 yrs old and a fawn. first step count the teeth in which some will have multiple cusps. it should have 3 premolars and then 3 molars, for a total of 6 teeth to indicate it's an adult. then we have tooth replacement and then wear. i'll post another later to get things moving and more interesting as not too many hunt fawns.

we used to have box blind built in a huge white pine. it was basically a sniper's hide that watched over fields. shots could be long but most activity happened within 300 yards.

no idea i'd guess most are as high as cheap ladder stand distance to 20+' when i use my climber. i just climb to as high as i have back cover. no need to go further. i am working on a stand that's at the end of my creek bottom it'll be probably 30' or so. reason being it's to see up over a rise in the corn field that comes off the end of the creek bottom cover. at the base is a some connector creek/stream it's about 6' difference in elevation just from the water to the edge of the corn field a bow shot away. it's purpose will be a doe tag filling stand during regular season for a backup. in case we reach the quota on another property and i haven't filled all tags i intend to during early season. may bow hunt it if deer are coming in range of it. we'll see.

last time i played golf on a course was in a golf tournament that was a scramble. i showed up camo cargo shorts. right off the bat i drove the whole first fairway on a par 4. i made them look good. i don't really golf so i don't ever expect to do it again, any time soon anyway.

function before fashion.

I'm an office golfer if that. i just bought a new set of clubs couple years ago. i've used them once. i do like playing but can't get out enough with other stuff going on. i've played so many times i could probably count them all on my fingers not that long ago.

i don't necessarily have a preference when it comes to length of season. i do believe that if it were much shorter than it is now we'd see more people scheduling vacation and having the camp prep and get-togethers before the season. right now the season is so long we have multiple get togethers with different people showing up at different ones because they can. it's more of a trickle effect. i do believe it'd increase the overall buck age structure. those who put in the time during the season will just be putting it in during preseason. i know it wouldn't change my buck standards.

Front center two incisors can be pulled. Sent out to one of two labs in country. They cross section the root, die it, and count cementum deposit rings on the tooth under a microscope and age it like the rings on a tree. Results of that test can vary but from deer here in N.Y. that experience harsher winters and are not supplementally fed all year the results are exceptional. With the report from the lab we use they even give a letter grade on how confident they could come to a result. Another method than this one, but works great to back check this method by sending in a random sampling and comparing the two ages to see if they are the same. We use Matson lab same as other state wildlife agencies. Hope post wasn't too long. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

Here's the first that should be very easy. How old was this whitetail deer? Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

Culvercreek was my inspiration as he did one before. Im just now getting around to do it though. In light of DEC plugging voluntary passing of young bucks. I think it's an absolute failure, unless you have the info and tools to gauge how your doing with your harvests compared to your expectations or goals. Jawbone aging is one tool to use. I have and will be getting enough jawbones panel aged by both QDM veterans and whitetail biologists to post forever. Here's a helpful links: http://extension.missouri.edu/p/G9484 http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_pdf/deeragingny.pdf https://www.qdma.com/video-jawbone-aging-part-1-tooth-replacement/ https://www.qdma.com/video-jawbone-aging-part-2-tooth-wear/ Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

200lb bucks are around just not at all common. Not all mature bucks break 200lbs but many will come close. We've had 5.5 yr olds early season not hit 200. Maybe at peak 6.5 they would. We've also had some 5.5+ bucks weigh well over 230. We have had reasonably mature doe weigh more than most yearlings harvested by new or youth hunters. A noticeable number of 2.5 yr old bucks don't tip the scales of a good portion of our heaviest doe. This from a pool of around 130 or more deer each annual season. Depending on time of season is important. Deer vary in weight. We here in eastern ag country in ny won't have the same potential for heavy deer as say western and southern tier areas of ny. Same for potential isn't the same compared to Midwest. We still can get 150+" 230+lb bucks but they are above average and all close to fully mature. People need to not guess and need to have realistic expectations for their area of the state. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

My problem seems to be time. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

I know of many people that see an old mature doe seemingly every year that they say would dress 200 lbs. Hundreds of recorded doe later I'm hard pressed to find one break past the 150s. I think their judgement and eyesight is a wag. Nothing having to do with you. I kind of agree. I think without harvest data to back it up aging by any means is just a wag. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

200+lb dressed weight bucks aren't in every wood lot. Takes some age. DEC has been given a lot of hell in recent years for not putting more education out there, especially with this whole promoting voluntary passing of young bucks. Stats per age class can vary a little depending on source but they seem to all be more than close enough for practical use. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

I've got the space but nothing to get me there. Other side of the state though. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

Around here a local guy makes this arrow lube called woodys that's good stuff. Seems like it's last a while. Comes in a glue stick size jar with pad applicator and cover. Wonder if that'd work For rails? Don't have a crossbow to test over time. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

I know a couple people with around 40. That's too much. For me. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

Cover scent or whatever. We smell the stronger cover scent. Deer just smell the cover scent still on rubber boots. It really doesn't matter if they don't associate rubber with danger though or if the smell isn't out of place. You could smell like garbage but if you hunt near a landfill the deer won't care. Think about how often a deer smells rubber crossing rec trails or roads. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

I never used to until I started bowhunting. Busted is busted but I do it all and feel it's helped. It's made to deer hesitate and bought me a couple seconds more, long enough it was too late for the deer in some cases. It's like when thinking if you smelled something versus somebody shoving an open gym bag in your face. Reactions are significantly different. Still hunt with wind in my face but many of the bigger deer I've seen or taken have come with, from my perspective, marginal wind that they were using to their advantage. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

What Bob posted applies the same for our area of the Upper Hudson River Valley branch (Warren, Washington, Saratoga, and Rensselaer counties) the magazine is a great deal for that much alone I agree with also. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

my parents own hundreds of acres. i've had a couple extended family members trying to harass each other and play games. each one was calling me asking to tell the other they need to go somewhere else. one was late 30's and the other was 50's. i was actually at my house on my property 20 minutes away trying to hunt in peace. i usually call the shots when parent's are away or whatever. basically not my problem and told them they were both men and family and had to work it out themselves. dad later asked about their BS. i told him i said they had to work it out themselves and get along. he agreed and said if people can't get along, none of them will hunt. we're pretty open. family are allowed to put up stands and hunt were they want but have to do so respecting each other. any other way would be more work and a PITA for me. hunting etiquette and getting along shouldn't be considered rocket science for adults.

i really am not much of a fisherman. just a redneck who fishes freshwater on occasion. my parents have a vacation home in FL on the gulf. hoping to do more saltwater fishing down there.