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the banking money movement thing is horrible too, every bank transaction. Major invasion of privacy IMO.

backdoor?

we're loaded with apples this year. they'll be wiped out by mid Oct. Acorns seem like they were good this year too in our area. That might make Oct a tough hunt.

Fruit trees are usually the early scrapes I see too. Not much longer.

For the original post and others, minus the Rompola side tracking....those are two different hunters and two different deer. One was shot in a preserve and passed as legit in KY. One was shot legally in KS, and there have been many cams pics of the buck in the wild/private property for some time prior to season. There is strong belief that the buck escaped a pen from a hunting preserve 10 miles away some time ago - they haven't clarified how long, but it seems to be quite some time ago based on the fact that the preserve couldn't immediately ID that buck as being theirs. Deer did have a tag hole in its ear but no tag in the cam pics or post harvest. Certainly seems this was a legal kill - hunter not knowing any different. Whether it gets into the books...no idea.

Visible from all sides or something like that is the wording.

I thought for sure I’d be able to get more heads up here. Gonna max out at like 8-9. The two you have are probably it lol. The wall opposite the turkey is bare due to me needing to be on camera for work. The one corner mount shows on cam just barely and I’ve had some people react positive and petrified. Corporate life. I’m likely going to find a way to display the piebald hide on a rack of some sort there that I can move out of the way.

No it fully opens to a stopper.

The room is only 8’ wide. My French bulldog is cramped in here.

2020 turkey is up. Looks like a great mount. One and only turkey I will ever mount lol.

That is a nice mount - I never really was intrigued by them, but as time goes on, I might take a trip to punch a tag on one. Seems like if I went that far west, it'd be for elk or a ram.

We're on an active farm that borders village line. We not only target big bucks, but we also shoot a fair number of does in season and on damage permits. We're being good stewards of the land - and that knows no boundaries. Good term by Grampy. If you must really know - this is the spot. The stands are all in this image. And yes, on the left hand side about 200 yards from the truck is a line of 15-20 homes.

The pretty much alludes to the choice not the mandate, and not the stats. We're as safe as states with the mandate - that was so clear they used it as noted by Belo in their rationale for start / stop adjustments. Saying we should use climbers vs ladders is placing the emphasis on us - on private ground, That is victim blaming. And while i don't speak much to adapting, I do ok. I shot three bucks last fall - averaging over P&Y minimum, in multiple states with different weapon types and on grounds I know or had never set foot on. So, adapt is something I am used to. Doesn't mean I have to agree with "common sense" minded individuals. Adapt isn't the point here.

You are alluding to a fools choice - NY has been as safe pretty much w/o orange. And, nice job victim blaming - I shouldn't have to worry on our ground about using a ladder vs a climber. And yes, antis. Not other hunters. A 12 yr old kid used that stand last year too.

Anti's cut the high vis green strap to my stand. Broke two others and hit a cam with a hatchet. All because those stands became visible with the high vis. So it literally affects safety - in both directions. Common sense laws are generally anything but common sense, which is why that term gets used. States like VA make clarity around using BO while on the ground, but not on a stand higher than 10 ft., even county specific, too. They are purpose built laws. This was a law that likely isn't going to have a statistically relevant benefit macro level. We were generally as safe or safer than states with the law and similar demographics. I get that you hunt the war zones, but that is where common sense comes in. Wear it there. If I hunted SL I'd wear orange, too. I doubt the rulebreakers will all of a sudden wear orange while they trespass, poach, etc. I wear BO the large majority of the time, but while in stand visible to anti homeowners/neighbors and a busy road (all while being legal/safe), I do not. And it proved to be the right decision for three years until we swapped straps and got careless with that thought process. Next thing I know, I'm down $500 in gear and almost fell off a ladder. For people to be short sighted and only think that this law can only do good, I won't change your minds, but it is tunnel vision. It goes both ways.

I like trail cam pics. I love bucks on my wall more.

Being 14' foot up a ladder and about to step on the platform when you look over and see the ratchet strap slashed...that will make you change your mind real quick. They found the stand because we changed out a camo strap to a neon green one and it became visible to them. These same yahoos will be causing issues for us when they see the orange. No doubt. I am gutted by this law because of this issue on a few parcels. I get the macro safety consideration but I'm telling you, orange does create problems. Everyone thinks it is a problem free solution. It is not. Antis and competitive issues will arise bringing with it the negative experiences associated with hunting.

I was going to suggest reaching out to them as they might be able to offer post sale support, but that is unlikely lol. Maybe return them if Browning can't troubleshoot. At least one benefit of Amazon.

1 arrow an end, 1-3 arrows per shooting session at this point. I have become much more comfortable with making that first arrow count. Yesterday, I did shoot 10 arrows, mostly because I was unable to shoot for a few days this past week. 9 of 10 were quality. The lone flyer in my defense I had a skeeter get into my ear at full draw, lol. Barely hit the target on that one at 30 yards. Back to a few arrows 4-5 days/week. Only have one of our two Ohio farms with huntable stands. The second will be worked on. Definitely behind. Calendars were not friendly this year. We did get one of our three properties here in NY ready to go. That one is our likely opening afternoon spot any how. Also need to get a scope on my 350 L and get her dialed in along with the .243 now that is also broken in. H&R Slug is ready to go as is the MZ. We will be in a stand on the 25th. Will be glassing quite heavily here in NY starting end of next week. The shifts are really in progress now.

Where'd you buy them?

No we're on an active farm. The south border has 15-20 homes in the village but they are 750-1k feet away. All owners bought homes after the farm was there (since 1800s).

The concept of a back 40 is very hard to realize here in NY IMO. Separate land holding is more achievable but you have to do it in a way where the land value is overwhelmingly going to be taxed low/take adv of programs.

The cost of land and what you get for it here in NY is only compounded by the taxes. While you are going through the process look at the ongoing costs to ownership at the same time. I was a cash buyer for 12 mos. and decided to no longer pursue the market here in NY; because I would be looking primarily for hunting and recreation, there are better fits for me out of state. While we hit up a few places in the next couple years, it will help me zero in on locale. For those staying local - I agree that the farm credit bureau is a great first start on costing. I worked with the western one when I initially considered cash plus financing for larger land holding. They were great.

It's most disappointing because it's a safety and harassment issue for us, and secondarily it is one of our most productive spots despite being field/field edge. Both my hunting partner and I have taken 130"+ bucks here and are tracking the same this year. The stands would be visible from a major road with BO on despite not being able to see our field from the road due to lay of the land. The field is 25 acres and is fully planted in brassica and winter wheat this year so we will be heavily focusing on this piece in late season. It is the first huntable property outside of a non-hunting village, with a deer problem. It is "common" to have 20-40 deer on it during a late season hunt. This will make it more challenging for safety and success.

Hunter harassment is key for us because we have a few parcels on suburban fringe. It's definitely a personal thing here and I understand it doesn't reflect the macro level. In this spot, two of our four stands since the past season have been damaged beyond repair. We replaced two straps with bright green ones at the season's end (all we had with us at the time) and guess what - these yahoos could see it from their houses. While they can see it, we're more than legal and even "safe" in terms of shooting direction. Yet, now we have two ladder stands that are broken and one where the strap was cut and the stand left up as if it were unmolested - and we put a young teenager up on that stand last year. I'm generally a low key guy, but I'd be very pissed if I ran into the culprit. Requiring us to wear orange now moves us beyond frustration. It's downright depressing.