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When hogs are slaughtered for consumers, they slit the throat and collect all the blood as the hog slowly dies while being bled out. The blood is used for some pork products. You don't want it to die quick, as it won't bleed completely out and won't taste as good.

Risk vs rewards. "Could possibly" has never occurred to date. The earth "could possibly" be destroyed by the sun blowing up tomorrow. We are ignoring massive economic benefits because of paranoia. Even if water was contaminated, the gas companies are more then willing to provide clean water for free to anyone who suffers a contamination, probably because they are that certain it's not going to happen. They even gave free bottled spring water to people who had contaminated wells prior to the gas companies ever starting to work. From the article: It’s hard to make sense of such blind hostility to the technology that has done more than any other to expand the supply of clean, affordable energy. The (current leftist) candidates’ rejectionism clearly isn’t grounded in science. Many fracking foes raise alarms about groundwater contamination. But when the Obama-era Environmental Protection Agency exhaustively studied that issue, it reported that it could “not find evidence” that fracking was responsible for “systemic impacts on drinking water resources.” Lisa Jackson, who headed the EPA during Obama’s first term, told a congressional hearing in 2011 that she was “not aware of any proven case where the fracking process itself has affected water.” Compare that to the overall benefit to the entire planet: "Because natural gas releases only half as much carbon dioxide as coal, the sweeping shift to gas-fueled plants has led to a dramatic reduction in America’s greenhouse gas emissions. So dramatic, in fact, that no other nation matches it, as President Obama observed in his 2014 State of the Union address: “Over the past eight years, the United States has reduced our total carbon pollution more than any other nation on Earth.” For anyone who worries about climate change and is intent on carbon reduction, all this should be cause for rejoicing. Fracking, which has made it possible, should be extolled as a boon to environmental progress." It should be carefully supervised and regulated, not banned outright. Isn't that benefit worth the minimal risk?

It's all about making fossil fuels more expensive so green energy seems competitive. https://patriotpost.us/opinion/65483-the-case-against-fracking-is-based-on-ideology-not-science?fbclid=IwAR3RnpdF0QpgE7HisMmFB1sCqFpWER0xPjmCPAJbM8fUqDwh1IZij0a3Uto

Total government control over everything in people's lives is a non-issue with many people. Imagine if all hunting, everywhere in the US required non-lead ammo. Do you think the ammo suppliers could meet that demand right away? Do you think the laws of supply and demand would push prices up even more? You will find out in the very near future, because to many hunters, it's a non-issue. BTW, what people must pay for non-lead ammo in California is higher than what you pay for it in NY, and since California doesn't allow any online ammo sales shipped directly to the buyer, they are at the mercy of the local stores who sell it.

Saw a video where a guy smoking while pumping gas gets sprayed with a fire extinguisher by another guy. Try that.

How many who have posted here have actually been hog hunting? How many have seen what goes on in a slaughterhouse? I've killed a hog and personally taken it from there to the freezer. It's quite the experience.

First bear I ever saw when hunting was pushed towards me by other hunters years ago. I was bow hunting in a tree stand and it ran right up to the base of my tree. It looked up and saw me then ran. I never saw a bear move so fast. It stop 40 yards downwind and just walked back and forth for a minute, then walked away. Couldn't hunt them in that area at the time.

California's hunters will see big spikes in non lead ammo pricing as soon as supplies dwindle, since ammo makers can't possibly crank out the volume of ammo needed when everyone has to use it for hunting. You can't even get non lead ammo in many popular hunting cartridges. I guess you just have to buy a new gun to keep hunting.

More of the same. Wake up people. https://www.sportsmensalliance.org/news/california-bobcat-hunting-ban-headed-to-governor/?fbclid=IwAR0Zb5CA2zseZ1ogBESKR1TShDzU3d8K9MkYvKC-E4jqw2k9T2MqbNJ5JM0

Hunters have been getting fed up with overall government interference in hunting for decades now. This ammo ban is just a huge cog in the wheel that may turn out to be the straw that breaks a lot of hunter's desire to continue hunting. Even if you doubt it will cause a decline in the numbers, you are taking a big gamble with that thinking. If you're wrong, the decline will be very hard to reverse, if it can be reversed at all. The current decline in hunter numbers hasn't stopped and shows no sign it will either. States like California are not concerned though. They will be quite happy to control animal populations by supporting larger wolf, cougar, grizzly bear, black bear and coyote populations to pick up the slack. All of which will become another expense for taxpayers to be burdened with. There has been no retreat from animal rights groups to eliminate hunting, and it isn't odd they have invested millions in this ammo ban bill if they don't think it will affect hunters. Yeah, they want to help animals affected by lead, but that is a minimal gain compared to how many they save if hunting numbers decline. And the animal rights crowd is closely aligned with the gun ban crowd. It won't be long before they decide to attack your gun rights based on the fact you have no desire to go hunting anymore. No hunting license? No need for a gun, especially that "high powered, scoped sniper rifle" you call a deer rifle. None of these heavy handed government regulations happens in a vacuum, and none are stand alone regulations that aren't expected to be expanded in the future at the first opportunity. Voluntary changes, become advisories, which become mandated with punishment by a fine, then morph into misdemeanors, which finally become felonies where violations remove all of the rights you used to have. There are hundreds of examples I could give to prove it to anyone wanting to see them, but I fear it would be as futile as administering medicine to the dead. Trusting the government is foolhardy when you consider all of the damage it's done to individual liberty over the years.

You have to sight in your hunting ammo at the range prior to using it to hunt with, correct? Unless you expect your lead free ammo to hit the same zero as your lead ammo. That's an assumption I would not make.

Time to find a storage location that is not your known address.

If all of your ammo, for all of your hunting and sighting in had to be lead free, and you did all sorts of hunting and a lot of it, your cost would be much higher overall. Read the article. We're losing hunters in California. That was the plan from the start.

The side effects of banning lead ammo..... https://www.westernjournal.com/california-ammo-ban-set-cost-hunters-big-time-may-quit-entirely/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=westernjournalism&utm_content=2019-09-10&utm_campaign=manualpost&fbclid=IwAR3NbPoLp0AWJN6vXK9iWfy-hZU3kR5mAKdQlziX76wM-ZHuBuke9PnP81Y

Let’s hope the August recess was a relaxing one, because conservative lawmakers will need every last ounce of energy to fight the onslaught of bad bills waiting for them in the House. With more Americans desperate for answers than ever after a month of horrific mass shootings, Democrats think they have one: gun control. And not just any gun control. This time, the Left’s attack on the Second Amendment comes with a helping of politically-correct thought control. The Disarm Hate Act was California’s idea. Two years ago, Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) home state sent a bill to the governor’s desk that added personal prejudice to a long list of reasons local residents couldn’t buy a gun. “There are too many examples in our country’s recent history which show what a firearm can do in the hands of people who practice hate,” said an assemblyman at the time. If a person is convicted of a hate crime, the Left argued, they shouldn’t be allowed to own a firearm. To a lot of legislators, it sounded like a reasonable idea. But in reality, it was California’s clever way of giving the Democrats’ dangerous hate crimes agenda a foothold in state gun law. Now, liberals want to take the idea nationwide. And with Judiciary Chairman Jerold Nadler (D-N.Y.) at the helm, they have a good chance at succeeding. Starting Tuesday, the House will try to persuade members to support a bill that would expand the Left’s ridiculous hate crimes agenda to firearm owners. It would mean, as one expert put it, that would-be gun owners could lose their Second Amendment rights — “not for violence, or even the threat of violence, but for a completely non-violent misdemeanor if it’s declared a ‘hate crime’ by authorities.” Like most conservatives, FRC has been fighting this idea of “hate” crimes since it became part of the criminal code 10 years ago. Beyond the fact that the term “hate” is very elastic in the hands of the Left, we’ve never believed that someone should be punished extra for holding unpopular views, especially on issues like marriage and sexuality. All that’s done over the past decade is turn the government into the federal “thought police” and intimidate people with strong personal beliefs. Just because someone is a victim of a politically-motivated wrongdoing doesn’t mean they should get special treatment. A crime is a crime, regardless of what motivated it. And yet, if the House and Senate pass this bill under some misguided notion of ending hate, this disaster of a 2009 law will have wormed its way into an explosive section of federal law. If the Democrats behind this bill were actually concerned about mass shootings, they’d focus on ways to take firearms out of the hands of people convicted of any misdemeanor connected to a violent act — not just “hate crimes.” The fact that House liberals are focusing all of their efforts on a law dealing with sexual orientation and gender identity exposes their true motives — which is to use the gun issue to force their extreme social ideologies on the country. Our nation has a serious problem. No one is arguing that. Schools, churches, shopping centers, businesses, and almost every place people gather have become targets for deranged individuals who are set on perpetrating evil and in possession of lethal weapons. “We are now at almost every two weeks, an active shooter in this country,” special agent Christopher Combs said during a news conference in Odessa, Texas, the scene of one of the grisly August shootings. As a former police officer and ardent supporter of the Second Amendment, I’m willing to talk about guns and who should own them. But the missing component to this discussion playing on an endless political loop is the impact of the moral vacuum created by eliminating virtue, faith, and civility from the public square. As I explain in an op-ed for Fox News, new gun laws will never achieve what a commitment to the Golden Rule can. The problem is not the absence of laws; it’s the absence of morality. We all want to disarm hate — but that’s impossible without embracing Truth first. Tony Perkins

Ruger Mini 30 which can easily take a scope. The peep sight works well for me.

Let the beetles pick it completely clean and you will have a nice Euro mount to put on the wall.

That J.O. of a Governor in NJ won't allow hunting for bears anywhere but private land, and most NJ land owners are against bear hunting. Sooner or later a bear will kill another person there and he will still be against bear hunting.

My bad. A 28 gauge has less shot stringing when it uses less shot (3/4 ounce) in the load, often referred to as a "square load". Far less stringing than a .410 load of any size.

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The advantage a 28 gauge offers over a 20 gauge is less recoil and less shot stringing with the same load of shot in the shell. There is very little difference there besides price. It's better to compare it to the .410 as it has far greater advantage in that respect.

When you get there you will literally be about half the man you used to be. Congrats and keep it going.

So what they're saying is a civil rights group that stands up to defend Constitutional rights is a "terrorist organization". What does that say about their respect for the US Constitution and the Rule of Law?

Used to go 17 too, but won't until they finish tearing it up.

I boo NJ too. Couldn't wait to leave the stress and traffic. Very good friend lives on Phillip lane in Watchung. Know it pretty well. Easy access to 78 and 287. BTW, I never drive the Thruway anymore. Visit the grand kids in NJ. Off peak hours on 206 through Port Jervis then 42 up to 17 in Monticello to Livingston Manor and over the mountains through Lew Beach saves gas and miles and there are no tolls. Plus, easy to get around an accident if there is one. Truly a scenic route.