Rattler

Some interesting facts for you. These are AVERAGE weights for yotes around here: https://www.newyorkupstate.com/outdoors/2017/02/upstate_ny_coyote_hunting_contest_results_in_85_taken_--_a_new_record.html https://www.esf.edu/pubprog/brochure/coyote/coyote.htm https://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/9359.html FYI: The largest coyote ever on record killed near Afton, Wyoming measured a staggering 5 ft 3 in from nose to tail, and weighed 75 lb. How big are coyotes in New York? On average, adult coyotes are between 4 and 5 feet long, and weigh between 35 and 45 pounds. Do you think these yotes get that big eating small rodents?

48 pounds. Contests have weighed 60 pound yotes around here.

I'm also in Delaware County and the fawns suddenly seem to be very few. So are the turkey. The coyotes, on the other hand, are plentiful. Seems to me there is a direct correlation there. Deer numbers in this area are down from prior years too. I think we are going to need to start killing more coyotes in this county. I shoot everyone I can when the season is open. I don't buy the BS they don't impact the deer population, or they only do what's natural. The yotes here are big. They're yote/wolf hybrids and many go 60 pounds. When they gather in packs, they can run down the biggest, healthiest deer. I know because I find the carcasses surrounded buy hundreds of yote tracks on my land every winter. I also hear the packs running the hills almost every night. When they get to be heavily populated in a given area, they are a problem that needs to be managed with high velocity lead therapy.

I had a female 43 years ago that I shared with my bird hunting partner. When I went to college in Maryland, he kept the dog at home. She was a great pheasant dog. She lived 10 years.

Notice how an injury on a deer's left side causes antler deformation on the right side. It's quite common.

A buddy of mine has a Wrangler Rubicon. His is loaded with every option including leather seats. Very expensive. First thing I noticed was how stiff the ride is. Not smooth at all. You really feel the road in it. Some people like that feeling. I find it to be uncomfortable.

I recently learned of a friend's passing at the ripe old age of 82. It was a shock, since he was very healthy for his age. An infection from an injury took him out. The saddest part is, he was the primary contact for his mother, who is now 112 and still lives at home with nurse visitation, and wasn't able to come up from Florida for the funeral. He used to say his mother wakes every day wondering why God didn't take her during the night.

Update. i went to a local sporting goods store Friday morning to buy some Butler Creek flip open scope caps and a guy walks in with a bundle of hunting regs to put on the shelf. The owner told the guy "Thanks" and asked why they were so late. The man said there was an issue with the contractor who printed them. I took 2 from the store. When I got home, I found 2 were mailed from the state as well. So now I have plenty to spread around so I won't have to walk far to check one out. One stays home, one in the PC bag, one in the car and one for my friend.

I don't have a printer and need wifi to access the regs online. Guess I'll pull them up and just jot down what is important for me.

I called them yesterday and was told they would have them on 9/1/19. Then they will send me some.

We can start hunting on 9/1/2019, but the regs won't be available until that date if we are lucky. How hard is it to print the regs one month earlier? NY is really incompetent in every way imaginable.

Plans for Wednesday the 4th. First day I can be out at sunrise.

Got to have plates that have reflective quality to make their EZ-Pass scanner work for them. They also reflect Police radar and lazer signals allowing cops to tag you at a much greater distance. This generates money for the state, which is losing millions a year because people are leaving the state. And this is the type of thing that makes them leave. Cuomo's answer to the public's aversion to out of control totalitarianism, is more government totalitarianism. The beatings will continue until morale improves.

It's worth noting the Leftist Progressive Marxist Totalitarian Democrat Senators make no mention of the Rule of Law based on the US Constitution, or how rulings comply with what it says. Their petition proves they have no regard for the US Constitution and what it actually says. They prefer to interpret it to support whatever unconstitutional agenda they wish to force on the citizenry. Be that as it may, their threat to change the court is another of their leftist dreams that has no chance of coming true, but it indicates they plan to start a huge propaganda campaign against the SCOTUS to sway public opinion against it. That is contempt for the Rule of Law, the Constitution and American legal jurisprudence. It's sedition. The Senators who signed that filing should all be charged with criminal conspiracy, impeached and jailed.

Get a condo downstate and the house and land upstate for hunting. I did. Now I live at "deer camp" and rent out the condo.

I'm sure the writer was told it retained it's weight, but obviously has little understanding of the concept, thereby got it wrong. Sounds like the writer was "parroting" what to write.

Looks like it's going to be very comfortable. I couldn't hunt from it. I'd fall asleep. LOL!

The last line above illustrates the lack of knowledge of the writer. I would say the bullet on the right is far from it's original shape after impact.

The picture of the bullets in the OP show a lead bullet fired into water at maximum velocity, so fragments are to be expected, though that photo appears to be of a worst case scenario, using a bullet not typical of a deer hunting round. Copper actually will give better penetration and good expansion, when it hits at a high velocity. Copper bullets often fail to expand when the velocity of the bullet drops below a certain speed, causing penetration with little internal damage, much like a full metal jacket bullet would do. As far as cost goes, copper is more than just a little more expensive. It is quite a bit more expensive, especially when compared to average bread & butter rounds that are at the bottom of the price scale. You can find .30-06 from PPU for $16 per box, whereas the cheapest copper rounds in .30-06 go for $26 per box. Copper also fouls the bore when the bullets don't have belts in the jacket to keep it from flowing when fired down the bore. The least expensive copper bullets don't have the belts. Copper fouling will ruin accuracy and is much harder to remove from a bore than conventional bullet fouling. Does using conventional bullets put lead fragments in the meat you might eat? That depends on where you hit the deer and how well you gut and butcher it. You can learn to cut it out. Do gut piles endanger raptors? They may if they are eaten by raptors, but not many are. Coyote, bear and other scavengers usually get to gut piles first. If anyone needs to be regulated regarding raptor threats from lead ammo, it's the deer processors that have open dumpsters on site where all the waste is thrown. These dumpsters attract raptors en masse. But the regs do not require they be covered. I have no problem with promotion of copper bullets for hunting, but they are not the be all, end all magic bullets they are often made out to be. If you like them, use them. My concern is with the people who push them. They are one step from requiring they be mandated, and that is where I object, because I believe there is a lot more to their push than just helping raptors. For example, all copper bullets will easily penetrate body armor. I'll let the reader extrapolate a little on that point to imagine where that might lead.

That's the finest example of projection I've seen in some time. Pretty presumptuous too. I guess you're not capable of civil debate. That's a shame. If you were, you might learn something. C'est la vie.

Any overpopulation of animals is bad and needs to be corrected. Man's influence on the wild has corrupted nature's natural cycles. Nature no longer levels itself out in all instances. Coyote will kill many deer in an area that has few deer to begin with, before they move on to another area to kill more. Too many coyote means few deer. They are predators and vermin that can devastate the balance of nature in any given area, in very little time. IMHO people who like them can't separate there warm feelings for dogs, from these wild voracious animals.

Not nature, just the coyotes that become over populated in it.

But having paid snipers wantonly kill the deer is OK with these animal lovers? And the public would support that, even though it isn't close to fair chase when it's done over bait, at night and with rifles using suppressors? Seems to me what is lacking is a public service campaign to educate the idiot electorate down there. If nothing else, it would prevent the city from hiring the snipers and really let the deer population get completely out of control. That would be just desserts for those fools.

The SINY borough President is pushing for it and the tide of opinion on SI is turning now. The rest of the city may not like it, but I'm not sure they can stop it if SINY citizens and elected officials want it. There will come a point where the wasted tax dollars will be far too high to ignore and a cull would be needed. At that point taxpayers can spend millions more to kill the deer, or choose to make money from hunters to offset the cost of the culling. I would not say never, as never is a very long time.

A friend of mine lives down there and sends me pics of bucks he sees when he hikes in that area. Many are big 10 pointers. He finds it easy to walk up on them and get withing bow range. He takes a pic and they walk off as if they are embarrassed they were spotted. He says quite a few have died of old age.