WNYBuckHunter

There used to be a couple of guys that had stands at the DEC days out this way. Ill see if they are there this year.

I got my new G30 today and figured I would do a little review on it. The first impression I got when I unboxed it, was it feels a little on the heavy side, but not too bad. I read through the book to see if there are any special tricks to this harness, and really, there arent. I unbuckled all of the straps and put the harness on to fit it for me. One of the biggest reasons I wanted this harness was because of the buckle system, which is similar to a seat belt style. You fit the harness to yourself once, and there is no more adjusting to do, just connect the buckles and go. My last harness did not have buckles, and you were basically refitting it every time you put it on. The down side to this system is that you are going to want to put it on before you get to your tree, or be really careful not to clank the buckles together, but the upside of being able to put it on and take it off quickly outweighs the negative to me. The harness is pretty darn comfortable once its on, and it has some loops and buckles that you can use to hang binos, calls, etc from, which is nice. It also comes with a real lineman's belt, which is a first for one of my harnesses. That should make setting up stands alot safer and faster. The quality is very good and I am looking forward to trying it out. Ill take a few pics and post them up when I have some time.

You had me right up until the last part. If youd rather see a deer than a naked woman, theres something wrong.

Me too. I self imposed a 2 week time span. Ill be going out to pull the cam and check the scrapes on Saturday or Sunday.

Sweet! Looks like a really good job!

That covers it for me too lol

I agree, they should not allow the sale of it in the state, and should be more clear with their definitions. Either that or just legalize baiting and forget about it. We dont want that to happen. My best friend moved to Michigan and he says baiting has ruined hunting there. He doesn't bait but everyone else does and he says it sucks! Thats pretty much just like people here that dont put in food plots and say the same thing though. Im not for or against baiting, Im just for staying legal with it. If its not legal to bait, then dont do it, if it is legal, enjoy.

I agree, they should not allow the sale of it in the state, and should be more clear with their definitions. Either that or just legalize baiting and forget about it.

I would really love to know exactly what information they use to come up with their numbers from year to year. It would at least make for an interesting read.

The number they hand out is based on the success rate. If the average success rate is say, 15% and they need 300 does taken, they hand out 2000 permits. Im not sure why they wouldnt up it for those areas unless they are fine with the number being taken.

Congrats on the new toy!

You can buy it but its not legal. I stopped at Dicks on my way up to camp last week. Was looking for something to put in a late season food plot. The guy at the counter leans over and in a low voice says " food plots are frowned upon in NYS, that's why we don't sell the product" he then says go try agway. I found the stuff I needed at a great feed and grain store in Arkport. Funny how you can buy these attractants but it's illegal to use them. The guy at Dick's is full of you know what. Food plots are not frowned upon in NY. At Gander Mtn, Ive heard employees describing to people how to get better pics on their trail cams by using Acorn Rage and all of the various baits they sell there. Ive walked up to them before and told them that they should be warning people that the stuff is illegal to use in NY. Then I looked at their display of customer trail cam pics, and saw troughs in front of them full of bait. I dont understand why the stores in this state can sell the stuff at all. Want to use it in another state where its legal? Buy it there.

Because if the wind blows to hard, its spills and you are illegal. Like I already said, why not stick with something 100% legal that will give you the same advantage? Ill be honest here and say that it sounds to me like you are just trying to justify buying the stuff, and Id bet money that after you do, it ends up being used exactly like most people use it.

Buyer did not come through. Still available.

Ive been planning on buying them for all of my stands to keep others out of them.

It wouldnt really matter what I would recommend, you need to be comfortable shooting it. I would advise you to go to a few shops with ranges and shoot as many different brands and models as you can. After you find one or two that you really like, go to Archerytalk.com and look in the classifieds section. Youll find a used one for a much better price than brand new. I just did that very thing and ended up with a Hoyt Maxxis for about half of retail.

BTW, I see guys buying that stuff all the time in Gander Mountain, actually saw one of the guys that lives and hunts right near my Dad's land in there buying 6 bags of it. The local DEC officer got a voicemail about it along with the info on where the guy's land is located.

Actually, this is what the DEC says about Deer Cain and other "dissolving powders" like C'Mere Deer... Q: What types of attractants are legal for deer hunting? A: You may use cover scents and lures, such as doe urine, for deer hunting. However, it is illegal to place a salt block or mineral lick on lands inhabited by deer at any time of year. It is also illegal to feed deer. Some attractants that are marketed for deer are liquids or dissolving powders which deer may not directly consume, but the attractants may entice deer to feed on the material which absorbed the attractant. These types of produces would not be legal. http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/8310.html So basically, if your liquid hits the ground, a tree, grass, a bush, etc you are breaking the law. Why bother pushing it like that with all of the other legal attractants and scents out there? I have my gut feeling as to why, but Ill keep that to myself.

Well I called them back today and then amazingly got the email that my stuff finally shipped. I do have to say their shipping is really fast, or their notifications are really slow, as its scheduled to be delivered tomorrow.

Thanks nya, unfortunately I think you are probably correct.

If its not made for the deer to consume, its fine. The problem with Deer Cane and C'mere Deer is that people get confused because it says "attractant" on it. In reality, its basically crushed up mineral blocks with scent in it. Its made for the deer to eat it.

No problem, always better to ask than to fight the ticket in court.

Doesnt really matter what you say, its what the DEC says. Check with them about it before using it unless youd like to risk a ticket for baiting.

Eddie beat me to it. Hes pretty quick for an old guy

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