carloracer1987 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 I got a ticket for unregistered vehicle, As I was towing my 8x10 homemade trailer, I had my fourwheeler on it and was on my way to go riding. Is this the right fine for my situation ? It is section 4011a- Unregistered motor vehicle. I know I should have just put the atv in the bed of my truck but I didn't have ramps and I was only going 3 miles away. Can anyone tell me if this is correct ? Also he misspelled the name of the road wrong but I don't think that can help me any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkln Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 What was unregistered, the ATV or the trailer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 was the trailer or the atv unregistered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carloracer1987 Posted June 30, 2013 Author Share Posted June 30, 2013 It was the trailer that was unregistered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carloracer1987 Posted June 30, 2013 Author Share Posted June 30, 2013 It just seems that there would be a different category for a trailer then a vehicle but maybe that's for the judge to decide ? Also I heard that if I register it before I show up to court they might throw the fine away any truth to that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carloracer1987 Posted June 30, 2013 Author Share Posted June 30, 2013 I pulled up 402.3 is for unregistered trailer. Seems like there would be a huge difference between an illegal car and a illegal trailer lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 It was the trailer that was unregistered yes, the trailer needs to be registered........unless it's under a certain size and the towing vehicles lights are visible, I would suggest to plead not guilty and register it asap, the judge may take that into consideration and reduce the fine and maybe even throw it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkln Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Well, it was unregistered and you knew it, pay up and learn the lesson next time.... not sure what excuse you are looking for here... sorry bud it is plain and simple to me... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 and why would you want the advice of an ex-cop? laws change all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Well, it was unregistered and you knew it, pay up and learn the lesson next time.... not sure what excuse you are looking for here... sorry bud it is plain and simple to me... I agree, pay up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carloracer1987 Posted June 30, 2013 Author Share Posted June 30, 2013 yes, the trailer needs to be registered........unless it's under a certain size and the towing vehicles lights are visible, I would suggest to plead not guilty and register it asap, the judge may take that into consideration and reduce the fine and maybe even throw it out I said this to the cop and he said that no matter what size it must have tow lights. And im not looking for an excuse I plan I knew it was illegal and I drove it. Im looking to make sure what he charged me with is correct. Thanks so far everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 go to court early and talk to the DA there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 unregistered motor vehicle (ATV included) would be 401-1a. That is correct. It applies to any motor vehicle, whether it is being towed, driven or parked on a public roadway. As long as it is on a public road you can be ticketed for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdswtr Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Plea not guilty with the judge and he will reschedule your court date on DA night, or ask to plea with a DA. That is if you have a clean license, you will need to go to the DMV and get an abstract of your license to show the DA you have a clean licens, if so the DA might reduce it to a non moving violation. Also get it registered and show proof to help in your request. If you got points on your license your chances are slim for a plea bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNY_Whitetailer Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Vtl 402-3 may have been more appropriate for a trailer. 401-1a would work too. As others have suggested, I would register the trailer, bring that paperwork with you to court, and plead not guilty. Sent from my ADR8995 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Also, when you get this registration stuff all cleared up, don't forget the NYS inspection for your trailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carloracer1987 Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 I have a pretty clean record my last ticket was when I was 17 and that was a speeding ticket, its been over 3 years. I just want to do the best I can to get it reduced, considering it was june 30th, funny the last day of the month, trying to meet quota probably. But the whole situation was just weird, he had his hazard lights on so I went into the other lane (no traffic) and as soon as I passed he speed up right onto my bumper of the trailer. Then he wouldn't even come to my window he stood back a few feet behind my driver door, I only saw him through my mirror. Take in mind this is a country back road with house's around. I'm going to go to and plea not guilty and try to get everything taken care of, Atleast its not a huge issue ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I said this to the cop and he said that no matter what size it must have tow lights. And im not looking for an excuse I plan I knew it was illegal and I drove it. Im looking to make sure what he charged me with is correct. Thanks so far everyone Yes, that sounds correct. I got one once for a trailer I had just purchased and was taking home. The judge tossed it, but only because i had the receipt with the date on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I have a pretty clean record my last ticket was when I was 17 and that was a speeding ticket, its been over 3 years. I just want to do the best I can to get it reduced, considering it was june 30th, funny the last day of the month, trying to meet quota probably. But the whole situation was just weird, he had his hazard lights on so I went into the other lane (no traffic) and as soon as I passed he speed up right onto my bumper of the trailer. Then he wouldn't even come to my window he stood back a few feet behind my driver door, I only saw him through my mirror. Take in mind this is a country back road with house's around. I'm going to go to and plea not guilty and try to get everything taken care of, Atleast its not a huge issue ! So your 20 years old and haven't got a ticket in 3 years? That's pretty good. Pay the fine & move on.............................................. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris62 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 There are no points on this ticket and the DA really has no where else to reduce this ticket to. The court may dismiss it... but the judge has no authority to toss the ticket under NY state Law. Getting it registered prior may help but the registrations as a rule run out the end of the year so if that's the case you have had 6 months free for not registering it. The is a $85 surcharge on it and I believe up to $ 200 fine with a $25 minimum. Alot of times the officer will issue this in lieu of a speeding ticket if the situation exists. This is a non moving violation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verminater71 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 carloracer what town was it in, i'm assumeing you wouldn't go through downtown ithaca so it was probably a small town, dryden will most likely make you pay, enfeild will probably throw it out make you pay court fee, 35$ I wouldn't worry to much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carloracer1987 Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 It was the town of Enfield over on halseyville road. Im 21 and only have one ticket, I know its not a ton of driving experience but the past 3 years I've put over 100,000 miles on my vehicles ( a lot of travel for work as a construction worker) Beats some of my friends with pleanty of tickets. I know the judge isn't bad, as she dropped my first ticket which was ironically the same cop on the same road 3 years ago. But Im in progress of getting it registered and inspected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterweasle Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 cops rarely walk right up to your window anymore, always seen em approach just as you said, staying slightly behind the driver( tougher for a bad guy to shoot at that direction) you passed him and saw no tags on the trailer, easy ticket for him, go pay it and register the trailer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdswtr Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I had a weird experience once involving a 4 wheeler and trailer. After towing it home from hunting camp one year I backed up to the garage to unload the 4 wheeler. Dropped the gate, jumped on the 4 wheeler and backed it off the trailer, at the same time a trooper was driving by. He made a u-turn and pulled in my driveway. I was stumped to why, he got out and proceeded to tell me he was going to issue me a ticket for failure to wear a helmet while operating an atv. I was shocked, so my usual smart azz self pulled my cell out of my pocket and acted like I was making a phone call. The trooper asked who I was calling and I say the police, he looked at me pretty oddly and said why? I told him he was on private property and was trespassing. He said have a nice day and left. Odd story but it is a true one. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carloracer1987 Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 I got plates on the way now, as easy as it is I should have done it sooner, Oh well live and learn lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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