a nice one

[boo711]

I stopped at my uncles today to check out my trail cam I hung on one of his apple trees. Got about 50 pics of a 5 pointer with what looks like 4 pts on the right and one main beam on the left. There is one out there with just horns on the left. I have seen him in the field but have not gotten any pics of him. They are building over 120 homes behind my uncle next year so they will all be shooters this year. But I got 2 pics of this guy and this is the one I am hoping to see come 10/1.

[crappyice]

Nice rack! Those apples fall in nice handy piles.....lucky I guess!

[josephmrtn]

Nice rack! Those apples fall in nice handy piles.....lucky I guess!

LOL no while he was hanging the cam he happened to kick a few into the pile... lol 

[BizCT]

Your a baiter! Expect a visit from a game warden. I sent them this pic.

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[Geno C]

nice buck... i see he likes your pile of apples...

[pewlodar]

looks like a sink hole is forming underneath the tree and all the apples are rolling into the hole. you may want to move the camera before the whole tree goes.

[Cabin Fever]

Nice lookin' buck!

[boo711]

Your a baiter! Expect a visit from a game warden. I sent them this pic.

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No worries. Not baiting, just putting the apples that are already on the ground, that the deer will eat anyways in a pile in front of the camera. Nothing illegal about that

[BizCT]

Your a baiter! Expect a visit from a game warden. I sent them this pic.

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No worries. Not baiting, just putting the apples that are already on the ground, that the deer will eat anyways in a pile in front of the camera. Nothing illegal about that

Haha. You are wrong, that is 100% ILLEGAL! I hope you get caught. There are acorns in the woods by me, I can't go around and collect them all and make a pile, that's illegal.

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[boo711]

For the record, I am not the type of person or hunter who is a law breaker. My aunt and uncle told me about all the deer they have been seeing in there yard so I brought my camera over the other day when I stopped to give my uncle a hand with something. I have been to busy to get my stands and cameras up. I do not want people on here to think I am a law breaker and to form a negative opinion. So after reading biz's last comment I called the DEC office and talked with an officer there. I told him what I had done and he informed we it is illegal to feed deer. I agreed with him and again explained to him what I did, the apples were there. He said he would have an issue with this if all apples from the trees had been consumed and I when out and bought more bushels of apples to keep feeding the deer. As far as baiting. He read me the one sentence defination from the hunting regs book. "It is illegal to hunt with the aid of bait or in a baited area when hunting big game, upland game birds, turkey or waterfowl". As long as I don't hunt there, which I can't hunt in the backyard due to the 500 ft discharge of a weapon law he said I am good. So Biz you can pile up the acorns, just as long as you don't hunt over those acorns or in an area that has the big pile. I apologize for the length of this post. I am glad I talked with someone about this and wanted to post this. Again I read this forum daily, but do not post to often. But I don't want people thinking negative when I do post.

[sampotter]

For the record, I am not the type of person or hunter who is a law breaker. My aunt and uncle told me about all the deer they have been seeing in there yard so I brought my camera over the other day when I stopped to give my uncle a hand with something. I have been to busy to get my stands and cameras up. I do not want people on here to think I am a law breaker and to form a negative opinion. So after reading biz's last comment I called the DEC office and talked with an officer there. I told him what I had done and he informed we it is illegal to feed deer. I agreed with him and again explained to him what I did, the apples were there. He said he would have an issue with this if all apples from the trees had been consumed and I when out and bought more bushels of apples to keep feeding the deer. As far as baiting. He read me the one sentence defination from the hunting regs book. "It is illegal to hunt with the aid of bait or in a baited area when hunting big game, upland game birds, turkey or waterfowl". As long as I don't hunt there, which I can't hunt in the backyard due to the 500 ft discharge of a weapon law he said I am good. So Biz you can pile up the acorns, just as long as you don't hunt over those acorns or in an area that has the big pile. I apologize for the length of this post. I am glad I talked with someone about this and wanted to post this. Again I read this forum daily, but do not post to often. But I don't want people thinking negative when I do post.

 

Good follow up. I follow the logic of the DEC officer. Also- it is not illegal to hunt over apples that have fallen unless you have moved them at all.

[Renegade Hunter]

Biz was just being a Troll. Making a fuss about kicking some apples around in his uncle's back yard? Give me a break.

[jjb4900]

I think the 3 second rule comes into play with something like this, if it's picked up and held by a human hand for more than 3 seconds before it's put back down it becomes bait........

[JimR]

From what the DEC officer told you, it seems like rearranging the fallen apples would'nt constitute baiting if done in an area where hunting would otherwise be OK.

[BizCT]

Biz was just being a Troll. Making a fuss about kicking some apples around in his uncle's back yard? Give me a break.

 

I was just stating the laws. He can't hunt over those hand-placed apples.  How was I supposed to know it was a backyard and not a huntable area?

Edited August 28, 2013 by Biz-R-OWorld

[TheMiz54]

When are they going to get rid of the baiting law in NYS. They sell all of the bait at GM, DICKS and Bass Pro but you cant put it out to get a few pictures of deer. I don't understand it??? Don't allow the stuff to be sold in your state if you don't want people to use it to attract deer.

 

The apples I don't have a problem with. They have already fallen maybe there was a really strong gust of wind and they all rolled into one nice pile right in front of the camera.

[Renegade Hunter]

I was just stating the laws. He can't hunt over those hand-placed apples.  How was I supposed to know it was a backyard and not a huntable area?

 

 

You stated that you called and told on him. Maybe you should have asked before assuming. IMO it's not some horrible offense to kick some apples around under an APPLE tree to catch a better pic of a deer. 

[Renegade Hunter]

And, he isn't bringing an outside food source into a new area. Nor did he grab up all the apples around and place them in one area. The deer would have been ten feet away, if not in that same spot, eating apples anyway.

[BizCT]

You stated that you called and told on him. Maybe you should have asked before assuming. IMO it's not some horrible offense to kick some apples around under an APPLE tree to catch a better pic of a deer. 

 

I understand what you are saying, however your opinion is worthless in this matter. The state determines the laws/regs, not me or you.

Edited August 28, 2013 by Biz-R-OWorld

[Renegade Hunter]

And so is yours. $10 says the DEC doesn't come after him.

[jjb4900]

And so is yours. $10 says the DEC doesn't come after him.

I wouldn't be the least bit concerned about moving apples around under a tree that they fell from........and I doubt DEC is either.

[BizCT]

$20 says I never called it in. I could care less if he cheats or not, too far away to affect my deer hunting season.

[Renegade Hunter]

Lol I would take that bet. You were trolling on him hardcore. Exclamation marks and capital lettering. You seemed pretty upset.

[jjb4900]

Lol I would take that bet. You were trolling on him hardcore. Exclamation marks and capital lettering. You seemed pretty upset.

I can just picture the puzzled look on the DEC Officer's face when he gets the call that someone shuffled some apple's around under the tree that they fell from.

[BizCT]

Lol I would take that bet. You were trolling on him hardcore. Exclamation marks and capital lettering. You seemed pretty upset.

 

Like I said, how would I know that is a backyard? The trail cam could have been attached to the tree in which he will be sitting come 10/1.  He said he hopes to shoot this deer, so I figured his camera was where he hunts. Most people put their cameras somewhere near where they plan to hunt.

 

Every single year there are lots of people in NY who get fined for "pre-established bait piles", look it up.  If the OP was going to make a bait pile with these apples and hunt over it, he would be fined. END OF STORY.

Edited August 28, 2013 by Biz-R-OWorld