Their Fallen Off. Already?

[landtracdeerhunter]

 An interesting note.   Cousin got this buck on the last day of November this year.  It had already shed one antler. After the shot on the power roll, he lost the other one.

[Lawdwaz]

Anything is possible. I had that happen with an 8point I shot 15 years ago. Sure surprised me.........

[wooly]

Sweet!

 

[cdmckane]

If it was off when he walked up on it, put a dmp on it!

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[landtracdeerhunter]

If t was off when he walked up on it, put a dmp on it!

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Not sure what tag he did use. Not sure it would be legal to put a DMP. on it.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

. Not sure it would be legal to put a DMP. on it.

Why? it is antlerless

[cdmckane]

Why? it is antlerless

exactly

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[phade]

Antlerless if he walked up to it with no antlers on its head.

[wooly]

If it had an antler when he pulled the trigger, it's a buck....end of story.

At least that's the honest thing to do.

 

 

[phade]

If it had an antler when he pulled the trigger, it's a buck....end of story.

At least that's the honest thing to do.

 

NY goes by antlered and antlerless.

 

When you reach down to attach the tag, if it doesn't have antlers, it doesn't have antlers.

 

It has nothing to do with honesty. I'm not lying or being unethical or being immoral...I'm simply tagging according to the law.

 

I suspect he could probably do either and be OK legally and personally with his moral compass.

 

 

Edited December 3, 2013 by phade

[landtracdeerhunter]

If it had an antler when he pulled the trigger, it's a buck....end of story.

At least that's the honest thing to do.

Like your way of thinking Wooly!

[Four Season Whitetail's]

So if someone shot a buck and it ran into a tree and broke both sides off but they are laying right there at the tree a doe tag goes on it?  I guess the broken antlers would also stay laying at the tree!

[phade]

In the OP case, are they not shed antlers? If so, wouldn't they be obtainable as such?

 

Don't know about broken antlers.

 

This is no different than if someone shot a button or a spike with 2.9in antlers as I see it. If I shot a 2.9in spike, it's going on my DMP as such.

 

Whatever it is, do what is legal, and what is right to you.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

If it had an antler when he pulled the trigger, it's a buck....end of story.

At least that's the honest thing to do.

which would be applicable if it was a buck tag. but it is an antlered tag. which it isn't.

 

Honestly I think DEC would not have a problem either way if you had the antler with you.

[Four Season Whitetail's]

which would be applicable if it was a buck tag. but it is an antlered tag. which it isn't.

 

Honestly I think DEC would not have a problem either way if you had the antler with you.

 

If they fell off maybe. If a guy walks out of the woods with say a 8inch spike buck with both antlers broke off, in the guys hand and an antlerless tag on the..Buck..there could and should be a problem.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

If they fell off maybe. If a guy walks out of the woods with say a 8inch spike buck with both antlers broke off, in the guys hand and an antlerless tag on the..Buck..there could and should be a problem.

But these were obviously NOT broken off. Come one FSW, you of all people know the difference in a break and a natural shed. I have seen them fall off due to stress like an arrow wound. 2 bucks in the last 8 years I have seen with these wounds and all pussed up. each had one antler gone and the other antler cam off when grabbed. Both of those weren't fit for consumption though.

[growalot]

! see another dbl digit page turn on the way...lol

 

Congrats on the take but have to agree...it was shot with a clearly visible rack...I'm assuming not with the expectations of it falling off...so buck tag

[azhuntress]

Yes, the antlers are starting to fall off! I watched a buck yesterday breed a doe and

it didn't have any antlers. I looked at the buck through the scope and could see the

spots on its head where the antlers used to be.

[newbreed]

didnt read through all the posts, but my father shot a buck last tuesday Nov. 26th. only had one antler, other looked like it had been shed, i was talking to a buddy of mine he said look for wounds....sure ehough he had an infected wound behind his ear, most likely from fighting, so im prettsure thats what caused him to shed that one antler. they will shed them if they wounded or not getting good neutrition to save on there enegry.

[newbreed]

alos we had trail cams of that buck with both antlers just a couple weeks before my dad shot him.

 

[blackradio]

I know of a few guys who shoot small bucks and stomp their racks off and tag them as doe

[Deerslayer]

If it had an antler when he pulled the trigger, it's a buck....end of story.

At least that's the honest thing to do.

Why? So then when pulled over down the road the Encon officer can give him a ticket for incorrect tagging of a deer? It has no antlers it is

antlerless and should have a DMP attached.  That is unless he does not HAVE a DMP for that area, then in that case I would not touch it

and call Encon, show them the antler & the deer & they will probably tell him to put the buck tag on anyway, but either way he will be

in the clear of getting into trouble.

[accman]

We go coyote hunting in 3m the second week of February, and two years ago,  I had 47 deer go by me within 75 yards.  All herded up, and in the valley, in the snow, they came by single file first 4 sets of does, 5 then 22, another 5 and finally three.  All does, spotted em pretty good, no nubs, but then the procession started.  4 bucks with spike and 4pts, then 4 bucks, sixes and small eights, then 4, 8's and tens; all with their racks intact.  I couldn't believe it that they were still on on Feb 11th.  I thought they dropped em earlier than that.  Best day of hunting, seeing so many deer, but didn't have to pull up the gun at all, just the binocs.  And it was great to see so many bucks still around, especially since we shot 14 that season.

[landtracdeerhunter]

It was tagged as a buck. He had the one antler to show DEC. He figured he shot it as a buck, so the buck tag was the right way to go. The other side had fresh blood at the antler area, so must have just lost it. He back tracked it a good long ways, but no luck finding the other side.

[landtracdeerhunter]

Not a match, but a nice find, all the same.