Quomo: Confiscation would be ok....

[bluecoupe]

This man and his cronies REALLY need to go

http://www.examiner.com/article/new-york-governor-confiscation-of-guns-could-be-an-option

 

The Second Amendment clearly says that the right to keep and bear arms "shall not be infringed," but New York Governor Andrew M. Cuomo, a Democrat, said that confiscation of guns from law-abiding citizens "could be an option" when the state legislature debates new gun control measures next month, The Blaze reported Friday.

“Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it," he told an Albany radio station late in the week.

According to The Blaze, Cuomo plans to propose a gun control package in his Jan. 9 State of the State address.

“There’s a big difference of opinion on these issues,” he told Albany’s WGDJ-AM.

“I don’t think legitimate sportsmen are going to say, ‘I need an assault weapon to go hunting,’” he said.

But the Washington Examiner's Timothy P. Carney says "there’s no real definition" of the term "assault weapon."

"First, all guns can be used to assault someone – even a muzzle-loading black-powder rifle," he wrote.

"Second, Congressional attempts to define this term were laughably ad hoc," he added.

"Calling a dog's tail a fifth leg does not change the tail, any more than calling a gun an 'assault weapon' changes its basic function," Thomas M. Moncure, Jr. wrote at the Howard Law Journal.

Cuomo told WGDJ that he owns a shotgun and regularly hunts with it.

“There is a balance here — I understand the rights of gun owners; I understand the rights of hunters,” he said.

But the Second Amendment was not intended to simply protect the rights of hunters.

In Federalist Paper 46, James Madison wrote that the Constitution preserves "the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe," Noah Webster wrote in 1787.

"The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive," he added.

In short, the Second Amendment was designed to keep the government from becoming tyrannical, not just secure rights for hunters.

Since the tragic shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary school in Newtown, Conn., liberals have sought to politicize the tragedy to advance an anti-gun and anti-freedom agenda.

Liberal politicians, aided by the Democrat-media complex, have attacked the Second Amendment claiming that all crime would stop if guns ceased to exist. Historically, gun bans have never worked as criminals, by definition, do not follow the law.

While Cuomo did not offer specific measures he would advance, the fact that he would suggest confiscation of guns from law-abiding citizens should be a wake-up call to every freedom-loving American.

Edited January 23, 2014 by bluecoupe

[landtracdeerhunter]

For me, if this ever did become reality, leaving this state wouldn't be an option, it would be a fact!

[bluecoupe]

By the time it becomes reality, it'd be too late.  The idiots need to be stopped now.  We have to get just as vocal, if not more than these ridiculous idiots.  Getting people motivated and off their butts and to the polls is our only hope.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

By the time it becomes reality, it'd be too late.  The idiots need to be stopped now.  We have to get just as vocal, if not more than these ridiculous idiots.  Getting people motivated and off their butts and to the polls is our only hope.

I have 3 people That I have registered to vote that weren't and I will be dragging to the voting booths this fall. If everybody upstate just got 3 that didn't do it last time.

[WNYBuckHunter]

Where are the guys on here that were saying "oh, they will never be able to do that....blah blah blah....." just days and weeks before the safe act passed? Oh yeah, they cant talk now because they are too busy chewing on their words.

[philoshop]

Although the posted article is, as they say, "old news", it makes for an excellent reminder of where the thinking is for some of the people in power. I'm doing what I can to inform and motivate the people I come into contact with in regards to this tyranny. These people can be voted out. The numbers are on our side if we can get them to the polls.

[bluecoupe]

12/22 - dated but I wouldn't call it "old".  It was the first I'd seen of it and I suspect I'm not alone.

I agree with you though, the issue is the "IF we can get them to the polls" clause...

[philoshop]

I didn't mean to suggest that it was irrelevant. My apologies. Definitely a must-read, but when I saw  "...legislature debates...next month..." my radar twitched and I checked the date. I thought His Majesty was trying something new that I hadn't heard about.

[Mr VJP]

These things get to this point because a lot of NY people think it cannot happen, when they are told it might.  If NY gun owners marshaled their forces two years ago in anticipation of the Safe Act's arrival, it would never have passed into law.

 

Many NY gun owners have no foresight and seem to prefer denial.  Today they are saying confiscation will never happen, even as Cuomo speaks of it.

 

Any many do not care about guns being taken, as long as the ones they own are not.

[bubba]

He made all these same statements a year ago.  Not new news he is just rehashing it.  Sad part is as things are now, it could be a reality. 

[Doc]

As I tried to say a few times before, this so-called SAFE ACT was simply a preview of coming attractions. It was a test case to see just how tough the NYS gun advocacy groups and the gun owners themselves really are. If we don't vote as a single minded, unified, focused block of voters, and if we are unsuccessful at sending a powerful message to politicians and would-be politicians in this next election, they will take that as a reason to be emboldened without limits. At that point, as they say, "Folks, you ain't seen nothing yet!"

 

We all know what has to be done. It's just a case of expending the proper amount of effort, along with finding the will and the backbone to do it.

[sits in trees]

I think any confiscation attempt by the state would end up disastrous and possibly deadly in many cases. Cuomo was riding the Newtown wave when he bleated those words.

[bubba]

Wait until you have to renew your handgun license and they look at all your medical records and you took an anti depressant such as wellbutrin to help you stop smoking.  You are a mental patient now and all your guns will be confiscated.  Just saying how this can happen and that is in the safe act.,

[pewlodar]

Wait until you have to renew your handgun license and they look at all your medical records and you took an anti depressant such as wellbutrin to help you stop smoking. You are a mental patient now and all your guns will be confiscated. Just saying how this can happen and that is in the safe act.,

They are doing this already. There was a case out near Buffalo where they took away his guns based on Medical records and it turn out the be the wrong person.

Not a question if they will do it, just a matter of when they will knock on your door. Their end game is the elimination of all firearms. Well all legal ones.

[bubba]

The question is what are we going to do about it

[bubba]

Laws that forbid the carrying of arms… disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. — Thomas Jefferson

[bubba]

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/psychiatry-as-a-weapon-of-tyranny-by-michael-connelly-constitutional-attorney#sthash.CHJPfqTy.dpbs

 

 

 

And on the federal level too

[bubba]

I mentioned this a while ago and was told it is just the pediatrician looking out for the safety of they children I was also told that it is not mandatory for Dr's to ask.  If you question this source, feel free to check the executive orders.