New Setback Rules proposed by Cuomo

[virgil]

I still can't figure out how to copy and paste.  But, there's an online article in the East End paper- the website is 27east.com.  Cuomo is proposing to allow a 150ft setback for bowhunting. 

[Doc]

http://riverheadnewsreview.timesreview.com/2014/01/50890/cuomo-throws-support-behind-reducing-hunting-setbacks/

 

A mistake in my opinion. But then what else is new for good ol' Andy?

[virgil]

A mistake, why?  Let me guess.... he's hoping that new hunters will only buy bows... all a part of his master plan to rid the state of guns.

[Doc]

I believe that having a bowhunter grinning back at the homeowner at a mere 50 yards may have some negative effects on many homeowner opinions regarding hunters. I think it's a privacy thing.

 

There is another potential problem of deer recovery, in that we are luring hunters into urban and suburban situations where difficult to impossible carcass recovery may result from a lack of trespass permissions on contiguous property parcels.

[Sogaard]

I think this is a good idea too, although I do want to hear your reasoning against it, Doc.  Why don't you like this change?  

 

The only thing I can think of is recovery rights for people hunting small tracts of land that could not previously be hunted.

 

 

 

EDIT: haha, yes Doc, I saw that after I posted

Edited January 28, 2014 by Sogaard

[Doc]

Ha-ha ..... I posted mine first. Look above your reply.

[Sogaard]

I believe that having a bowhunter grinning back at the homeowner at a mere 50 yards may have some negative effects on many homeowner opinions regarding hunters. I think it's a privacy thing.

 

There is another potential problem of deer recovery, in that we are luring hunters into urban and suburban situations where difficult to impossible carcass recovery may result from a lack of trespass permissions on contiguous property parcels.

 

 

Ok, I guessed correctly on one of your points.  I can understand the first too, even if I disagree with it.  Well, not so much "disagree" as, don't care about how someone else feels if I'm hunting in a legal spot.  People who have negative views on hunting don't care if you are 150', 500' or 50,000' from them, they will still have their views.

[growalot]

Don't you worry...soon enough arrows will have stamped serial #'s that will be require recording at purchase...cash that is...otherwise imbedded in scan code if you use a card and or a store discount card...same for broad heads and bows...next any person to person bow purchase will have to go through a legal arms dealer...it won't be fire arms dealer any more...just arms dealer...

 

I know that I will be buying my fencing early this year...before the run and then price increase on it....lol

[virgil]

I could see the recovery issue being a problem in some cases.  Fair point.

[Doc]

500' and it's likely they won't even know you're there. 50 yards, and your hunting activities makes you look like your average peeping Tom ..... lol. Really just think about how ridiculously close 50 yards really is. As far as promoting negative views by being obtrusive and inserting ourselves into other peoples private space, I guess I do actually worry about such things, and I think public relations is super important these days and will get to be even more important in the future. As a hunter, I don't want to see situations that might transform non-hunters into anti-hunters.

[Sogaard]

Honestly, I think my indifference is based on the fact I live in the city.  My neighbors' houses are ten feet on either side of me.  The only things that give me any semblance of privacy are the curtains.  

[growalot]

 

 The only things that give me any semblance of privacy are the curtains.  

Ya remember those days...and why we moved out in the country and bought both sides of the road...If we won the lottery tomorrow...land owner next door would be a very rich man...

[Doc]

Don't you worry...soon enough arrows will have stamped serial #'s that will be require recording at purchase...cash that is...otherwise imbedded in scan code if you use a card and or a store discount card...same for broad heads and bows...next any person to person bow purchase will have to go through a legal arms dealer...it won't be fire arms dealer any more...just arms dealer...

 

I know that I will be buying my fencing early this year...before the run and then price increase on it....lol

Don't even suggest that ..... even kidding.

[Doc]

Honestly, I think my indifference is based on the fact I live in the city.  My neighbors' houses are ten feet on either side of me.  The only things that give me any semblance of privacy are the curtains.  

And then when you consider those that have moved to the suburbs, you will find that one of the main concerns was some semblance of privacy. They probably won't take kindly to the grinning bowhunter in  the rhododendron bush in his camo and grease-painted face ..... lol.

[Catskill Hunter]

I don't trust this turd. he has an agenda for everything he does . he wants to show everyone he's pro sportsman, all he wants is his lost votes due to his safe act back

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[growalot]

 

I know that I will be buying my fencing early this year...before the run and then price increase on it....lol

[blackradio]

Ok, I guessed correctly on one of your points.  I can understand the first too, even if I disagree with it.  Well, not so much "disagree" as, don't care about how someone else feels if I'm hunting in a legal spot.  People who have negative views on hunting don't care if you are 150', 500' or 50,000' from them, they will still have their views.

Not really true. I know plenty of people that are fine with hunting but they don't want to see people that close to their house hunting.

[Sogaard]

You know plenty of people who change their views over a 350 foot difference? That is less than a football field in length. You know a lot more temperamental people than I do.

Edited January 28, 2014 by Sogaard

[SteveB]

I feel like a broken record - you can NOW hunt closer than 500 ft.

 

It simply requires the same permission that one would need anyway when a dying deer makes it that 150 feet to the neighbors land and you want to recover it. Nothing needs to be changed.

[ants]

50 yards isn't very far. The neighbor in back of me is a bout 70 yards away. When they have their curtains open I can see them at their dinner table, eating.  I think the privacy thing does come into play.  (creepy) 

[Nomad]

Hum that woods across the street from me would then be legal....right now there is no way I could get permission from everyone with in 500 feet,although Jim across from me said I could shoot them for inside his kitchen each morning.... Heck if I get permission from 1 house each side that would work under the new law !

Just walked the dog over there tons of beds and tracks, issue always was to get 500 feet from the houses on each side was impossible the woods is only 800 feet wide.

My experience with suburban hunting small wood lots is they tend to stay in cover when shot, no guarantee though ,good thing I know all the neighbors pretty well.

[bubba]

You know plenty of people who change their views over a 350 foot difference? That is less than a football field in length. You know a lot more temperamental people than I do.

 a foot ball field is 300 feet 100 yards

[Sogaard]

 a foot ball field is 300 feet 100 yards

 

Think about it Bubba, it will come to you eventually.

[bubba]

how is 350 feet less than 300 feet.

[Nomad]

End zones !

And I watch zero football.....

Edited January 28, 2014 by Larry302