Meat Manager 177 Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) It seems like finding and securing a lease is about as difficult as finding and harvesting a mature buck. I passed on renewing my 7f lease so I could get something within 15 mins, and more diverse and thicker woods. So I've been hunting hard for a lease for about a full month...had several slip away and also the normal blow-offs from disinterested hunting lease company reps. Despite all the setbacks I signed today on 25 wooded acres mixed species and mixed maturity only 15 minutes from my house and still in 7j. Adjacent to 90+ acres agriculture, it has two thick pines stands, overgrown thick orchards, three ridges, and well established mature hardwoods sloping down to a very thick immature hardwood stand. Also we have permission to use it recreationally all year with a campsite for my new little trailer my wife and I just purchased: Tons of sign, bumped 6 first time i walked it...good diversity of cover and the landowner is going to brush hog me an acre for a Foodplot, I am really pumped: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited February 7, 2014 by Meat Manager 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hunter 162 Posted February 7, 2014 Congrats and good luck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meat Manager 177 Posted February 8, 2014 Thanks... Today I pulled my treestands and molded plastic posted signs off last years lease...marched the boundary and had to double back several times for stands through 12-15" of snow...I am beat. I'll be posting my new lease ASAP, but I hope the snow packs down a bit on the meantime. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meat Manager 177 Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) Got out and posted the new lease, 2 straight days of boundary work in deep snow is keeping me in dragging shape: Found a few clear spots that may do well as small food plots: Also found a seem of mature hardwoods in the middle of my first pine stand and just above my first ridge: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited February 9, 2014 by Meat Manager 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crappyice 13034 Posted February 9, 2014 What's the cost if you dont mind me asking...I am seriously considering a lease due to all of the hassles we had this year with other people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meat Manager 177 Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) What's the cost if you dont mind me asking...I am seriously considering a lease due to all of the hassles we had this year with other people. Last year I overpaid @ almost $50/acre on a lease about 45 mins away that I only had hunting rights on and that was more than half ag fields and didn't have thick enough stuff to hold deer. I still harvested 4 deer off of it, but only a couple of mature deer. This year I paid a little over $40/acre but it is nearly fully wooded with tons of diversity in terms of topography, as well as timber species, thickness and maturity. It is still adjacent to ag, but most importantly I have 4 season recreational/camping rights to the property and can put in food plots as I please. Also it is only 15 minutes away. If not for these options I would not have went over $30/acre. If this works out this year we will probably begin an owner financed purchase of this property, so it's pretty much lease to own. Ive tried the hunting lease sites and timber co's and have been blown off and ignored. Both of my lease experiences are through private land owners I met on Craigslist. Once replying to an ad and once placing a wanted ad. I suggest placing an ad because the for-lease listings go really fast. This link is to a site that filters ny Craigslist results for land and leases: http://www.trophyhuntleases.com/index.php/component/newsfeeds/newsfeed/35-new-york-craigslist-leases I wrote both leases myself to fit everyones needs based on a number of sample leases. Lots of benefits to this arrangement. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited February 10, 2014 by Meat Manager Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meat Manager 177 Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) Me and the dogs finished posting the boundary at the lease today, flushed quite a few birds...5 treestands on or within 15 yards of the boundary...2 facing in toward my lease, needless to say I posted heavy at those spots: I also found a ladder stand in nice shape in the center of the parcel...probably from the previous owner of the property, mine now: Also found this bee keeping hive and another great rub...looking forward to some shed hunting when the snow gets manageable: Feels great to be in the woods! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited February 10, 2014 by Meat Manager Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First-light 4181 Posted February 10, 2014 Sounds great, wish you luck. Quote "We Feed 'em" "He Breeds 'em" Legends Lodge, "Where Legends are born" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vince1 106 Posted February 11, 2014 wife gave me permission to buy some property mostly for camping with the family and building a little getaway cabin for us. prolly wont exceed 10 acres but I was hoping to get lucky and find a nice one for hunting as well leasing first sounds pretty good thanks for the idea. just cant figure on jersey or new York. two to three hour drive to jersy or 3 to 5 hours upstate. wondering how much you figuring on paying for that if you decide to buy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meat Manager 177 Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) I don't want to get into total price tag but I will say that we are trying to budget for about a $400/month payment for a specific period. Here is a Jersey company that does an interesting lease auction, no renews all properties come back up for auction in may: http://thompsonmanagementllc.com/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited February 11, 2014 by Meat Manager Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NFA-ADK 2823 Posted February 11, 2014 Very nice, good luck with it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ford 142 Posted February 11, 2014 I don't want to get into total price tag Why is that? Quote If my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meat Manager 177 Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) Thanks all! @Ford: Because we have not actually finished negotiating the price...this years experience will help determine if the owner and I can get together on price. Right now we agree the property is within the same ballpark figure...so if all goes well this year then we will move foreward. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited February 11, 2014 by Meat Manager Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vince1 106 Posted February 12, 2014 I know noooothing about pricing land and d judgin worth. Dont wana get shafted and overpay. Tuff buyin land Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meat Manager 177 Posted February 12, 2014 I know noooothing about pricing land and d judgin worth. Dont wana get shafted and overpay. Tuff buyin land Research comparable properties recently sold nearby if possible. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinjelam 5 Posted March 8, 2014 That's sick, congrats on the lease, looks like a solid spot and not to mention extremely convenient in terms of distance!! That's also a great idea looking into lease to buy options, utilize this year as a trial run and from there see what comes about. Best if luck this year!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg54 2044 Posted March 8, 2014 Looks great. Congrats!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bone Seeker 22 Posted March 10, 2014 Congrats. I am from NH and just got my first lease ever in Oneida County NY. In the Sangerfield/Waterville area. Do you have any knowledge of the deer hunting in zone 7M? Thanks M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meat Manager 177 Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) Still haven't found a shed on the new lease but I've got pics of bald deer, coyotes and I've got a dead 5 point less than 15 yds from a treestand right on my boundary: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited April 6, 2014 by Meat Manager Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G-Man 7852 Posted April 6, 2014 That's a few years old being dead... Quote I've hunted almost everyday of my life.. the rest have been wasted! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meat Manager 177 Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) That's a few years old being dead... For sure the antlers were like rotten cork. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited April 6, 2014 by Meat Manager Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meat Manager 177 Posted May 4, 2014 Today I scored my first harvest on this property, 5th bird I called-in there this weekend: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G-Man 7852 Posted May 4, 2014 Very good, I see people lease a bit on this site, do you think you could secure a long term lease? 1 Year at a time seems to be a big hassle... Quote I've hunted almost everyday of my life.. the rest have been wasted! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meat Manager 177 Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) Very good, I see people lease a bit on this site, do you think you could secure a long term lease? 1 Year at a time seems to be a big hassle... I rushed into my first lease last year, I loved the farmer/owner but the land just couldn't hold deer. I got into this years with a strong potential to buy sometime between now and the end of the lease term. I'm already sick of looking for land for lease or to purchase... I'm liking this lease property so far so we will see. I know some lease companies do 3,5 or even 10 year leases. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited May 4, 2014 by Meat Manager Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
