Changing triggers

[BKhunter]

I want to change the trigger on my Weatherby Vanguard 30-06 as now that I have been hunting and shooting more and more I understand that the factory trigger has a lot of creep and is taking away from the accuracy of my shot placement. Has anyone changed these triggers before and if so what did you change it with and with what results? From what I have been reading a lot of people are saying to go with Timney triggers. Thanks for any advice you all can offer.

 

BK

[Lawdwaz]

I've only done a couple on my Remington 700's so surely can't comment on a 'Bee but I bet a Youtube video or two and a call to Timney would get you in the game.  If not, a competent 'smith would be happy to do it for you, for a price .

 

Good luck and good choice! 

[wildcat junkie]

I've changed a bunch of Mauser triggers & a few Remintgtom M700 triggers to Timneys.

Not considered top of the line, but they are as good a triggers as most anyone will ever need.

Adjustable for weight, sear engagement & over-travel. Capable of (safe) 2 1/2# pull.

[dbHunterNY]

don't have weatherby experience.  trigger creep is a horrible thing though.  it's like seeing a little kid nervous to jump into a pool, at the edge and point of no return.  many times all is reasonably fine, or they panic at the very last second from knowing and FEELING it's happening.  then next you know they're flailing into the water or bump something off the edge of the pool.  with practice you can ride it out until it happens and all is well.  a trigger without creep is better though.  like closing your eyes and someone giving the initial shove.  much swifter and fluent transition. 

[WNYBuckHunter]

I swapped mine out on my R700 with a Timney, had the weight set by them, so it was just drop in and go. Like Ladwaz said, you should be able to fine a how to on youtube.

[Pygmy]

don't have weatherby experience.  trigger creep is a horrible thing though.  it's like seeing a little kid nervous to jump into a pool, at the edge and point of no return.  many times all is reasonably fine, or they panic at the very last second from knowing and FEELING it's happening.  then next you know they're flailing into the water or bump something off the edge of the pool.  with practice you can ride it out until it happens and all is well.  a trigger without creep is better though.  like closing your eyes and someone giving the initial shove.  much swifter and fluent transition. 

Holy mackerel, db, that was pretty descriptive....!!..

 

Some day you'll have to tell us about the first time you "rode the wild pony"....

 

Of course, if it was anything like MY first time, it was over much quicker than the time it would take to TYPE it...<<grin>>....

[ny hunter]

I own 4 VG's and none of them have any trigger issue's at all.........Maybe you should send it back to WB....

[dbHunterNY]

Holy mackerel, db, that was pretty descriptive....!!..

 

Some day you'll have to tell us about the first time you "rode the wild pony"....

 

Of course, if it was anything like MY first time, it was over much quicker than the time it would take to TYPE it...<<grin>>....

 

shooting bows, rifles, and now pistols competitively I've figured out squeezing a trigger isn't really that easy and simple.  there's a lot going on like my elaborate description!  lol  I love it when people forget to take off the safety and you're watching them.  holy mother do some do some crazy weird motions when it doesn't break.  I think me growing up learning to shoot my dad's Remington 7600 with its horrific stock trigger helped me some.

[sailinghudson25]

A light trigger can cause some serious misses depending on how you shoot.  The common offhand technique is to squeeze more there better the sight picture looks.  You can't do that with a real light trigger.

 

I clean up my own trigger and help others out with their rifles as well as tune flintlock locks for old muzzleloaders.

 

Tuning up a trigger is easy to do.  Many times, the trigger just needs a good cleaning, maybe take a slight burr off with some fine emery cloth or a few light passes with a stone, then put it back with some proper lubrication.  Many times, that's all that is needed.  Some processes in making these guns include bead blasting.  I have seen several guns with some sort of sand like material in them.  Many time the factory just didn't spend enough time getting all the burrs off of it.  A emery board for people's nails with a touch of light motor oil is enough to clean up a burr.  It's not always the sear face, sometimes it's the side of the sear where it pivots around a pin that causes problems.

 

There is no reason you can't shoot really good groups with a clean 4lb trigger.  As said before, it might be easier to shoot good groups with this trigger than some target one.  Having some travel, before it breaks, and having it break cleanly with the same effort every time makes a good trigger. 

 

A few of my own rifles I have added more trigger pull to them.  sometimes making the sear engagement a little more steep of an angle, or maybe just changing the tension of a trigger return spring. 

Edited August 16, 2015 by sailinghudson25

[eagle rider]

I might be late to party here, but I have a few Timney triggers and one is in a  Vanguard.  They are very easy to do and if you order it directly from Timney they will factory set the brake weight for you.  

[JimMac]

Timney triggers are always on my mind but i got a set of stones and been learning that for now

got my 2 savage rifles down to 4lbs and my monsin nagant down to 3lb , maybe one day

I'll drop a timney in one or all 3 and get them down to 2 or 3lbs ..

 

 

[WNYBuckHunter]

Timneys are just about being light, its about smooth precision at the weight you are comfortable with.