Gay Marriage Protected by the 14th Amendment?

[Mr VJP]

But the church's influence on the electorate, cannot be separated from their desires, values, morals and beliefs, and the founders never intended for it to be separate.

 

By allowing the Judicial branch of government to make laws, we are overriding the will of the electorate.

 

Why do you think Gay marriage was not put up for a vote in a National election?

 

Edited June 29, 2015 by Mr VJP

[The_Field_Ager]

 

Why do you think Gay marriage was not put up for a vote in a National election?

 

 

He,like many Americans, doesn't think.He simply reacts.

[The_Field_Ager]

Obama, Clinton cheer gay marriage but do business with homophobic Iran

 

[Mr VJP]

The Democrats have no concern for gays in other lands.  They have no votes to offer Democrats in America.

 

[Five Seasons]

nd the founders never intended for it to be separate.

 

 

[Paula]

My step daughter was married 2 months ago, so now I have a daughter in law

[Mr VJP]

 

Obviously didn't understand the post.

[G-Man]

And more importantly.... http://bearingarms.com/can-gay-couples-open-carry-ar-15s-washington-dc-result-obergefell/?utm_source=gpfbp&utm_medium=fbpage&utm_campaign=gpupdateI'd like to see this used against the safe act in new york as well...

[Borngeechee]

And more importantly.... http://bearingarms.com/can-gay-couples-open-carry-ar-15s-washington-dc-result-obergefell/?utm_source=gpfbp&utm_medium=fbpage&utm_campaign=gpupdateI'd like to see this used against the safe act in new york as well...

It's true. They can't possibly say that it doesn't apply to concealed carry without being totally hypocritical. I think I'll apply for my Utah carry permit.

[Mr VJP]

Good read on where we are going from here.

 

http://patriotpost.us/articles/36076

 

"Five leftist lawyers, currently abusing their authority as Supreme Court Justices, unleashed their activism upon the U.S. Constitution Friday and created a non-existent right to same-sex marriage. The Fourteenth Amendment may provide equal protection under the law, but by applying it to expand the definition of marriage the Court has created a constitutional crisis in America. The First and Tenth Amendments, which respectively promise freedom of individual religion and award jurisdiction to the States of all powers not enumerated in the Constitution, have now been placed in direct conflict with the Fourteenth Amendment."

[DirtTime]

Give us an example of your "HATERS"……..Who has said "I hate hipsters".."I hate gay people"….."All gay people are criminals"……..  You are making stupid assumptions about people who dare to have a differing opinion from yours. Your post is a picture perfect example of the intolerant left and their  mindless, knee jerk response to anyone who does not "conform" to their thinking…..This is the part where you call me  a racist, homophobe , bigot, anti woman, anti man, anti bunny, anti immigrant, anti…fill in the blank,,,,, because you are an angry little intolerant, brainwashed Racist tool. 

 

Its been implied. Not everyone is stupid. But everyone can read this. This thread is a good example of hating gay people. Or how about the Boy Scouts thread?

I am racists? I am intolerant? Sure. Lie if it makes you sleep better.

 

And with that all I can do is laugh. 

[Mr VJP]

It's not hatred of gays.  It's hatred of what is happening in America.  Big Government coercion is getting some push back, and it's way overdue.

 

[ants]

Its been implied. Not everyone is stupid. But everyone can read this. This thread is a good example of hating gay people. Or how about the Boy Scouts thread?

I am racists? I am intolerant? Sure. Lie if it makes you sleep better.

 

And with that all I can do is laugh. 

But you can't give any real examples,,can you? "Implied" bails you out of having to explain or prove your ridiculous false accusations…. And yeah…some people are stupid. I bet you think people "Speak in code" too.  LOL!! Good thing that only  you and people who think like you have the key to that code huh?? How convenient. Your post is a good example of you and your ilk hating people who dare disagree with you. (its "implied")

 

 

And with that all I can do is laugh my freaking ass of!!!!

[Paula]

Its been implied. Not everyone is stupid. But everyone can read this. This thread is a good example of hating gay people. Or how about the Boy Scouts thread?

I am racists? I am intolerant? Sure. Lie if it makes you sleep better.

And with that all I can do is laugh. [/quot

Seems like you point out what is wrong with people on here but you keep coming back, why is that?

[EspressoBuzz]

   It doesn't matter if some judge decides it's protected by the Constitution or not. God says marriage is a union between 1 MAN & 1 WOMAN. Despite how hard the government is trying to run Christianity out of our country, not even SCOTUS supercedes God's word / law.

 

Just for the record I would like you to point out where in the Bible (unless you've been speaking with God directly) it says marriage is between one man and one woman. Chapter and verse please.

 

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/captive-virgins-polygamy-and-sex-slaves-what-marriage-would-look-like-if-we-actually-followed-the-bible/

[DirtTime]

Its been implied. Not everyone is stupid. But everyone can read this. This thread is a good example of hating gay people. Or how about the Boy Scouts thread?

I am racists? I am intolerant? Sure. Lie if it makes you sleep better.

And with that all I can do is laugh. [/quot

Seems like you point out what is wrong with people on here but you keep coming back, why is that?

 

Because some members still talk about hunting. Learning something I didn't know about the 30.30 or .308. Or advice on buying my new bow.

It's a hunting forum! So I keep coming back because some of us still want to talk about hunting. BTW, nice of you to chime in on a non-hunting thread Paula.

[DirtTime]

But you can't give any real examples,,can you? "Implied" bails you out of having to explain or prove your ridiculous false accusations…. And yeah…some people are stupid. I bet you think people "Speak in code" too.  LOL!! Good thing that only  you and people who think like you have the key to that code huh?? How convenient. Your post is a good example of you and your ilk hating people who dare disagree with you. (its "implied")

 

 

And with that all I can do is laugh my freaking ass of!!!!

 

 

Give me a few, I will post all the links. Not all of us think this site is God.

[The_Field_Ager]

Just for the record I would like you to point out where in the Bible (unless you've been speaking with God directly) it says marriage is between one man and one woman. Chapter and verse please.

 

 

Matthew 19:4-6

 

 Have ye not read, that he who made man from the beginning, Made them male and female? And he said: [5] For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they two shall be in one flesh.

[6] Therefore now they are not two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let no man put asunder.

Edited June 30, 2015 by Papist

[The_Field_Ager]

 

This thread is a good example of hating gay people.

 

 

I guess your own people are haters too:

 

 

In the cultural battle over “same-sex” marriage, one of the American groups overlooked in the debate is the Native American population. Organized along ancestral tribes, these groups form a diverse, yet significant portion of the U.S. population.

Native American tribal leaders have discussed the issue of “same-sex” marriage at length over the past several years as the debate has raged in America.

 

Where many of them have come out on the matter is sure to make liberals howl.

CNS News reports:

Tribal laws of the two largest Native American tribes in the United States prohibit gay marriage, as do the laws of nine other smaller tribes.

 

http://gopthedailydose.com/2015/06/29/this-group-of-americans-just-banned-gay-marriage-forever/

[Paula]

Because some members still talk about hunting. Learning something I didn't know about the 30.30 or .308. Or advice on buying my new bow.

It's a hunting forum! So I keep coming back because some of us still want to talk about hunting. BTW, nice of you to chime in on a non-hunting thread Paula.

 

So then stick to hunting topics. I comment and read anything on here, if i don't like it i move on. Simple

[growalot]

If that last quote /comment was addressed to me...my post was about American Flags not individual human nature.

Let me just remind you of this quote that has been around for a very long time and holds true then ,now and till times end.  That said  you failed to address Expressobuzz's link which contains the truth about all this" God says no" BS.

The "bible" was written by men period. Jesus was a man, a political radical of his time, He bordered on genius in how he managed the masses for change and was willing to sacrifice himself to achieve his goals. He was a good man, did he believe in "God" I believe so. Which is why he was willing to go so far.

 

There is a reason this quote holds true.because such discussions are like a dog chasing his own tail...rarely do you see him catch it he just goes around and around and around accomplishing but one thing..Getting dizzy.
 

A rule of etiquette --in business, at the dinner table, at the barbershop and elsewhere—is “never talk about religion or politics.” These subjects are highly contentious and usually result in heated argument instead of general agreement. “Never discuss religion or politics with those who hold opinions opposite to yours” has been cited in print since at least 1840. “Do not discuss politics or religion in general company” is from 1879.

 

 

 

[EspressoBuzz]

Matthew 19:4-6

 

 Have ye not read, that he who made man from the beginning, Made them male and female? And he said: [5] For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they two shall be in one flesh.

[6] Therefore now they are not two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let no man put asunder.

 

Are you ignoring or does this nullify the rest of the bible that speaks often of more than one woman, rape, incest sexual slavery. etc? Are you picking an choosing which parts of the bible you're dogmatically following? Why if you're so against gay marriage because of the Bible are you not for multiple wives? concubines? and marrying children? as written in the Bible? If you are not for those forms of marriage how do you explain that?

 

The fact is the selective verses religious types choose only enforce the hate you already have in your heart and no amount of Bible thumping is going to change that.

[Skillet]

Are you ignoring or does this nullify the rest of the bible that speaks often of more than one woman, rape, incest sexual slavery. etc? Are you picking an choosing which parts of the bible you're dogmatically following? Why if you're so against gay marriage because of the Bible are you not for multiple wives? concubines? and marrying children? as written in the Bible? If you are not for those forms of marriage how do you explain that?

The fact is the selective verses religious types choose only enforce the hate you already have in your heart and no amount of Bible thumping is going to change that.

Chapters and verses demonstrating the things you are claiming. Please.

[Five Seasons]

It's not hatred of gays.  It's hatred of what is happening in America.  Big Government coercion is getting some push back, and it's way overdue.

 

We butt heads a lot but politically you and I are pretty well aligned. I'm 100% with you on big government, the government cheese and rules and regulations being a big, big issue in our country.

 

But I view the government allowing gays to marry as the exact opposite. They are now "butting out" of your business and letting you do as you wish. It's the same thing we all are asking for when it comes to gun control. View this as a win for government de-regulating and stop viewing it as a loss for your religious beliefs. You can still go to church on Sundays and your neighbor can still go to to temple and your other neighbor can still pray to Mecca 5 times a day and the other guy down the road can go to his cabin in the woods and poke dolls with needles. That's what makes America great.

 

[The_Field_Ager]

Are you ignoring 

 

 

I think that's best in your case. It's like a dog chasing it's tail with you.