upstatehunter Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Some people want antler restriction and some don't......do you think having half the season restricted would make everyone happy or Sun up to noon is restricted and noon to dark is not restricted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trial153 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 That would be an enforcement nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Nope just leave as voluntary ar...we don't need more laws or need to tell people what they can or cannot shootSent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstatehunter Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 3 minutes ago, Trial153 said: That would be an enforcement nightmare. Would be the same nightmare as people filling doe tags in the designated area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trial153 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Would be the same nightmare as people filling doe tags in the designated area So double down on idiocy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstatehunter Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 4 minutes ago, stoneam2006 said: Nope just leave as voluntary ar...we don't need more laws or need to tell people what they can or cannot shoot Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Oh trust me I agree but the cry babies who want restrictions will wonder day win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trial153 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 While I am favor of AR's I think they are a band aid for a problem that has much better, and easier solutions .For example: 1) one buck tag to be used in any season. 2) DMP that are zone and person specific 3) A 10 day state wide regular season that is after the rut. Do this and you won't needs AR's at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATbuckhunter Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I love AR's and I would agree that there should be an AR in the first 10 days of gun season. Although im only in favor for it, if its accepted by majority of NYS hunters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 It should be a yes or no question when you purchase your license. Majority rules, I'm against it entirely but if its what the majority of hunters want then I'll deal with itSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Dbl post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterdan44 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I hunt in 4-0 and have had a/r for several years now. I will say the hunting has improved. When I was first hunting this area in the early 1970s and for the 80s and 90s if someone shot an 8 pt it was news. I'm seeing more bucks and hearing less shooting. The last 4 years my family (8 hunters - kids grandkids etc.) we've taken at least one 8 pt a year some years two. And during bow season I'm noticing bigger bucks on there feet searching. Now it's not deer paradise where I hunt-but it has improved. The first year of a/r not one of us shot a buck all the spikes n 4 walked but since then it has improved. Jut my 2 pennies.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisw Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I am torn on this topic. I like the sounds of restrictions for my own personal agenda but I know a lot of hunters that are thrilled to shoot a crotchhorn opening day of gun season. People who have limited time to hunt don't always have the luxury of waiting on "better" deer or people who don't have private land to hunt (myself included). I too think it should be left to a hunter vote, when you buy your license you get one vote, majority rules. Or take it further and vote for the unit you routinely hunt as AR or not? I've never hunted an AR area but it sounds like a good principle to me (I'm biased because I want more 2.5yr+ deer around). Or how about you get two buck tags same as now, first tag can be used on any legal buck, second tag must fit antler restrictive criteria ( 4 on one side)? I'm not sure that would make a huge difference on a state level but I wouldn't mind it being tried... Also I think a shorter gun season would be nice (also a bias), I'm not a fan of crossbows in general but I'd gladly accept them all season long if it would trade off for shorter gun seasons. I'm sure I've pushed someone's hot button in here somewhere so before you get all flustered remember I'm not advocating anything, just spit balling a few ideas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I am torn on this topic. I like the sounds of restrictions for my own personal agenda but I know a lot of hunters that are thrilled to shoot a crotchhorn opening day of gun season. People who have limited time to hunt don't always have the luxury of waiting on "better" deer or people who don't have private land to hunt (myself included). I too think it should be left to a hunter vote, when you buy your license you get one vote, majority rules. Or take it further and vote for the unit you routinely hunt as AR or not? I've never hunted an AR area but it sounds like a good principle to me (I'm biased because I want more 2.5yr+ deer around). Or how about you get two buck tags same as now, first tag can be used on any legal buck, second tag must fit antler restrictive criteria ( 4 on one side)? I'm not sure that would make a huge difference on a state level but I wouldn't mind it being tried... Also I think a shorter gun season would be nice (also a bias), I'm not a fan of crossbows in general but I'd gladly accept them all season long if it would trade off for shorter gun seasons. I'm sure I've pushed someone's hot button in here somewhere so before you get all flustered remember I'm not advocating anything, just spit balling a few ideas... I'm pretty sure I read that only 5% of NY hunters kill a second buck so I don't think that would make a difference. I'm opposed to AR for the same reasons you stated, I'd like to see us go to one buck. I think it would make more hunters pass on bucks knowing that that four point ends their buck season 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_C Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I am against AR. I think it drives some casual hunters away, and we need all we can get on our side. There is a tendency to look down on the casual hunter, but I want them to support us-if we want to keep our hunting heritage, we need them. Will 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I am against AR. I think it drives some casual hunters away, and we need all we can get on our side. There is a tendency to look down on the casual hunter, but I want them to support us-if we want to keep our hunting heritage, we need them. WillWell saidSent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtTime Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 6 minutes ago, Will_C said: I am against AR. I think it drives some casual hunters away, and we need all we can get on our side. There is a tendency to look down on the casual hunter, but I want them to support us-if we want to keep our hunting heritage, we need them. Will We need far more hunters with this mindset in our midst! Well said Will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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