About to buy first ML - thoughts?

[sbuff]

I haven't read a post yet where anyone has been bent. 

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[Jeremy K]

13 minutes ago, sbuff said:

I haven't read a post yet where anyone has been bent. 

Patients darling ,its coming.

[sbuff]

 Does CVA still say to not use 300GR + bullets in sabots and no conical over 400grains?

[Jeremy K]

36 minutes ago, sbuff said:

 Does CVA still say to not use 300GR + bullets in sabots and no conical over 400grains?

They didn't tell me not to use them in my Apex , a lot of people shoot a saboted 300g bullet .

[sbuff]

I said 300+, but it states it right in your manual, do not use , same for the rest of their line up.

My point, all the other manufacturers let you shoot the heavier bullets if you so choose. To me that tells you how their barrels are built . Will a CVA shoot accurately yes,will I buy one no . I'm just offering my thoughts to Biz and his dad 

[Jeremy K]

11 minutes ago, sbuff said:

I said 300+, but it states it right in your manual, do not use , same for the rest of their line up.

My point, all the other manufacturers let you shoot the heavier bullets if you so choose. To me that tells you how their barrels are built . Will a CVA shoot accurately yes,will I buy one no . I'm just offering my thoughts to Biz and his dad 

A few models come with a Bergara barrel . Plenty of people upgrade the barrel on their Thompson to a Bergara barrel because they out perform the rest.

[sbuff]

Do you have any proof to back that up?

Biz ,I'd have your father go to a local shop and shoulder some up then choose the one he likes and fits him the best. Muzzloader.com is a good place to get from, I've spoken to the owners a time or two.  As stated no ffl needed.

 

Keep me posted.

Steve

[Lawdwaz]

1 hour ago, sbuff said:

I haven't read a post yet where anyone has been bent. 

Get bent for Lent.

Don't mess around Bismuth, have dad buy a NULA smokeless ML'r.  Trophy bucks flock to them.........

[sbuff]

Melvin builds a sweet gun. You should sell it to me 

[Lawdwaz]

20 minutes ago, sbuff said:

Melvin builds a sweet gun. You should sell it to me 

As my good friend Pygmy would say........"hehehehehe".

That gun is going to the Smithsonian someday.

Wanna see more bucks killed with it?  OK..........

Oh and one more......

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[stubborn1VT]

5 hours ago, growalot said:

I will need to look this up again BUT...I believe they changed that law so no convicted felon without special circumstance(judge review) is allow to use a blk. powder gun...This I think was changed last or 2 years ago...I'll dbl check.

 

Not the case in VT.  I know felons that hunt with ML.  Asked the game warden about it.  He said it was legal, unfortunately.

[SmokeinTN]

I had a Savage smokeless ML. Shot lights out. Bought it for Colorado Ml season. They outlawed smokeless ML same year. Needless to say wasn't happy.

[growalot]

I Have never had an issue with my traditions LT....15 years...

[Lawdwaz]

5 hours ago, moog5050 said:

I can confirm that the TCs are nice.  Mine is a tack driver also even with a big charge.  But they are more expensive and others will kill deer just as dead for a lot less.

Sako rifles don't kill any better than Savage but they sure are purty!!

You ever sell that beauty?

[BizCT]

Now Biz. Please explain to me why a self proclaimed Weatherby snob such as yourself would even look at that Muzzleloader? lol
Buddy had a CVA wolf and that one was junk. They replaced it becasue it wouldn't fire every time. The Optima they replaced it with is a nice shooter but falls way short of my Encore once it is stretched past 100 yards. Whatever you settle on make sure the model has a the muzzle over bored for easy bullet starting and  fast follow up shots. You will thank me later. 
And some sort of speed breech is nice to have. 

I think he got annoyed the last few years in late season with xbow seeing really nice bucks just out of range.


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[BizCT]

Thanks everyone else.


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[mlammerhirt]

Cva optima pro....Love that sucker..Shoulders real nice, and shoots like a dream!

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[ATbuckhunter]

Have zero experience with muzzeloaders, but I hear great things about T/C's. 

[moog5050]

1 hour ago, Lawdwaz said:

Sako rifles don't kill any better than Savage but they sure are purty!!

You ever sell that beauty?

I still have a 308 Bavarian carbine but the classic is now Grampys.  Going to a good home!

 

[BizCT]

You were all right on the FFL, thx.


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[Lawdwaz]

10 hours ago, Biz-R-OWorld said:

 

I will not be buying one or getting involved with ML's

 

Why no interest?

[BizCT]

Why no interest?

At most I hunt 1 day in late season, so I'm fine with xbow. If anything, I'll buy a compound if xbows don't get full inclusion this year. Then I can start killing the bucks that eat acorns all October.



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[BizCT]

Btw, he is going with "nitride" barrel, whatever that means. Thx again everyone.


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[ATbuckhunter]

16 minutes ago, Biz-R-OWorld said:

Btw, he is going with "nitride" barrel, whatever that means. Thx again everyone.


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Its the coating on the barrel. They say nitride has superior rust prevention and a tougher finish. 

[sbuff]

1 hour ago, Jeremy K said:

A few models come with a Bergara barrel . Plenty of people upgrade the barrel on their Thompson to a Bergara barrel because they out perform the rest.

Any luck finding proof to back that up ?

He will enjoy the gun Biz. What powder and bullet choice will he be trying out when it arrives ....