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5 minutes ago, wolc123 said:

It is definitely easier for them to run down mature deer in the deep snow than it is without.  Those big padded paws are almost like snowshoes, while the narrow hoofs on a deer sink right thru, wasting tons of energy and making for an easy run-down.   Nothing is easier for them to catch than an old rutted-out buck in the deep snow.   While the fat does and yearlings leave him behind in the loose powder, he quickly becomes coyote food.  After spring fawning season, that is the second "happy time" each year, in the north-country, for the coyotes.       

I saw just the opposite of that sex ratio mortality rate.

That year I found 60+ dead doe and fawns, but I only found 3 or 5 dead bucks.

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5 hours ago, wooly said:

I saw just the opposite of that sex ratio mortality rate.

That year I found 60+ dead doe and fawns, but I only found 3 or 5 dead bucks.

I think the larger animals have less struggle when snow is deep.  I also think some mature bucks know where the doe are and the smarter ones tend to travel less making them better prepped for the winter.  Some will always run themselves to death, usually the less dominant ones. 

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On 8/3/2017 at 10:00 AM, Jeremy K said:

I read some of the writings by Dan florez,  one theory to them sounding off is a roll call . When the number get depleted ,the females have more pups , lots of researchers feel this is the reason that killing off the population of yotes never is succesful. He goes on to say that coyotes have no problem leaving the pack to go on their own when the pressure is too great . This is where wolves and yotes differ. Back when they decided to eliminate wolves, they could kill one of the pack and use that wolves scent to lure in the rest of the pack because they are so pack driven.

I don't know about that theory, but I love the fact that you know about Dan Florez.  He's put out some interesting research and books about the history of North American wildlife (some of it has up-ended preconceived notions that we had previously held about certain species and extinction events).  As well, his conversations with Steve Rinella on the Meat Eater Podcast make for good listening as I drive to and from hunting spots.

On 8/3/2017 at 6:18 AM, growalot said:

Now how can that be true?

As i recall..many times by many members:

1. Coyotes do not pack

2. coyotes are more afraid of us then we are of them

 

.....sorry i have a long  memory :wink:

Coyote do pack up.  Usually as a mating pair, with maybe a few young dogs in tow, though I've heard of people encountering bigger packs.

Coyote are generally afraid of people, but they have gone after pets, sometimes right in front of the owner.  I heard of a dog getting snatched while out on a walk near Blue Mountain lake a few weeks back.  And they will go after people they deem as easy or vulnerable targets (which usually means kids), the more extreme example of this being that young Canadian singer killed up in eastern Canada a few years back: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Mitchell.

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Hey TC.  I was out shed hunting our area this spring and saw these 2 yotes coming.  Did a mouth call (have to turn volume up to hear it) and they circled downwind, checked me out and meandered off.  Pretty cool encounter.
First ones I've physically seen in our area despite the immense amount of time I spend in our woods.  I think they are around, but not abundant.
 
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I hear them three four times a week, they're always in the town woods at Herr Rd. I can actually start whistling from my driveway and get them singing, it's awesome


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I had one "escort" me across a field barking its head off while I was walking out to turkey hunt. I think it had pups nearby as it walked 100 yards with me and then went back. It was dark so I'm not sure. I'm not gonna lie it scared the crap out of me at first lol, but I hunted that spot several more times that season. I'm not going to worry about being attacked by coyotes


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This has been an entertaining 5 pages of reading. All I know is that I've hunted coyotes at night in the dead of winter for the past 2 years and only shot 2. The are the smartest out there. I know I'm calling them in a lot more but you get busted and don't even know it. To draw them in around where I hunt it's not many open fields like ya see on you tube. It's more like the jump out of the hedge rows. I have see coyotes in my own back yard in Lancaster more than when I'm hunting. They don't bother me that much I have a respect for them cause they are Wilely ..

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You want to put a dent in the coyote population, you are going to have to start trapping. Yeah, I know the new elite and enlightened culture has deemed trapping to be barbaric and cruel and completely beneath us, but it is still the most effective population control going when used.

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