Core Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) Yep, another broad head. Exciting, right These are a couple of years old and caught my eye because they claim--and I agree with the theory--to fly like a field tip. Other broad heads try and fly like field tips by minimizing the difference between the broadhead's profile and an actual field tip. This thing said screw it, we're done. Let's just wrap it with a damn cover. It flies covered and the cover snaps on impact. Before you ask: somebody on youtube has one video if it hitting a target at a 45 degree deflection and it does not bounce off. Cutting surface is not huge on these, but what do you think? You need to buy replacement covers, but I am not aware of a better flying broadhead (it's true the tip on this is slightly fatter than a normal field tip, though, so FPS would be infinitesimally less). This test from last year has them doing well also: http://www.bowhuntingmag.com/gear-accessories/2016-mechanical-broadhead-test/ https://www.innerloc.com/product/100-grain-shape-shifter Edited October 5, 2017 by Core 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 No doubt it will fly like a FP. Does the tip have to push through the plastic when it contacts a deer. Honestly, I always go back to the theory that a well tuned bow will pretty much put a BH with a FP anyways. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNY Bowhunter Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Was checking them out yesterday. I'd like to try them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Core Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, moog5050 said: No doubt it will fly like a FP. Does the tip have to push through the plastic when it contacts a deer. Honestly, I always go back to the theory that a well tuned bow will pretty much put a BH with a FP anyways. Yes, no, not really sure. it just kind of explodes. It uses some energy to do it, but very little. I think the plastic is shaped such that when it is impacted it wedges the blades apart, and then they just keep flying more until it pops up. From the link at bowhuntingmag this is the most accurate of all their broadheads, hitting as if it isn't a broadhead. The penetration test is interesting, though, as it seems to really penetrate very far. Which is normally good, but one might wonder exactly why it's doing that. Edited October 5, 2017 by Core Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 nah, wouldn't be interested. I ran my course with fold back blades. Only times I have had a broadhead NOT make it all the way through a deer were with fold back blades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Core Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said: nah, wouldn't be interested. I ran my course with fold back blades. Only times I have had a broadhead NOT make it all the way through a deer were with fold back blades. My mechanicals never make a second hole let alone come out the other side Shooting at 60 lbs currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Core said: My mechanicals never make a second hole let alone come out the other side Shooting at 60 lbs currently. My G5 Montec's have always gone through except for one spine hit. I use to shoot razor baks on a whitetail 2, thunder heads on an old proline and those passed through. I went to a speedy Balck night 2 fromt bow tech and tossed on fold back broadheads and had 4 deer that didn't make an exit hole. went back to thunderheads and started punching through again. and except for the black knight I haven't shot over 60# Edited October 5, 2017 by Culvercreek hunt club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 All quality broadheads will fly like a field point if the bow is properly tuned. I'm sure as hell not going to put a cover over my broadhead under any circumstance and I would likely make my own broadheads out a piece of rock before I shot another critter with food back blades.In my opinion it's a solution looking for a problem that doesn't exist. If your bow doesn't shoot broadheads like field points it's most likely not the broadheads it's the bow. Now mechanical heads can bandaid this by making the arrows hit where field points do but you will still be loosing a whole bunch of KE by your nock not being behind the head when your arrow is not flying true.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 45 minutes ago, Core said: My mechanicals never make a second hole let alone come out the other side Shooting at 60 lbs currently. I shoot Rage 125gr Crossbow X heads (yes crossbow heads out of my compound), and they go right through deer. My buck last year was at 40 yards and the head went right through it. The arrow didnt go all the way through, but the broadhead did, Im pretty sure because the deer lurched forward, and its shoulder snapped the first 3" and the broadhead off before the whole arrow went through. The other piece of the arrow shot back out the other side. I shoot 63lbs. Im guessing you may need to get more weight in your arrows. Speed isnt everything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Core Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 43 minutes ago, WNYBuckHunter said: I shoot Rage 125gr Crossbow X heads (yes crossbow heads out of my compound), and they go right through deer. My buck last year was at 40 yards and the head went right through it. The arrow didnt go all the way through, but the broadhead did, Im pretty sure because the deer lurched forward, and its shoulder snapped the first 3" and the broadhead off before the whole arrow went through. The other piece of the arrow shot back out the other side. I shoot 63lbs. Im guessing you may need to get more weight in your arrows. Speed isnt everything. Arrows are about 400 total, maybe 410, but for all I know they are hitting ribs or whatever and I haven't hit a ton to say either way. When I break out the xbow in november I do expect some pass throughs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowmanMike Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I shoot 55# draw.with fixed 100 gr muzzys. Have only shot three deer at 20 yds or less and have gotten pass through on all,even with hitting ribs or the opposite knee. I agree with buckmaster that there is no need for mechanicals if your bow is tuned right. But whatever floats your boat... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 33 minutes ago, Core said: Arrows are about 400 total, maybe 410, but for all I know they are hitting ribs or whatever and I haven't hit a ton to say either way. When I break out the xbow in november I do expect some pass throughs. Mine are around 450 or 460 total with the 125gr heads. You might want to switch to a heavier broadhead and try rear deploying or fixed blade heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas0218 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 3 hours ago, moog5050 said: No doubt it will fly like a FP. Does the tip have to push through the plastic when it contacts a deer. Honestly, I always go back to the theory that a well tuned bow will pretty much put a BH with a FP anyways. I have never had an issue with my bow tuned and my BHs flying exactly the same as the Field points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtiscoPaul Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) On 10/5/2017 at 12:02 PM, Core said: My mechanicals never make a second hole let alone come out the other side Shooting at 60 lbs currently. Go over 500 grains with your arrows and 15% FOC. I did because of lack of penetration and went to fixed 2 blade heads and passed through the thick part of the shoulder bone on the way thru on a harvest this past Sunday. Both arrow and head were completely undamaged and the deer did not bolt but died immediately. I think any mechanical head wastes momentum on impact, so either have plenty to spare or switch. +1 on a well tuned bow...I'd add some actual broadhead practice also tends to help rather than relying on "Flies Like FP's" Edited October 7, 2017 by OtiscoPaul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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