Just Lucky Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 45 minutes ago, vizslas said: these guys are going to get fines . are they going to be enough , nope. and as far as paying by the inch , thats not really fair to the guy who poaches a doe to eat. Jail aint shit, all they would get would be local lockup and only for a month or two, if even. I do think they should lose the truck and the guns. taking away their license would be a waste of time. they will hunt anyway, so at least get the revenue for the license. More officers are needed, its the only way to stop it. i personally haven't seen a DEC officer in over twenty years. now lets get on with arguing like little girls about who can and cant get it done. and whats the reason they dont or do.lil bitches thinking they know so much about somebody else . Grow up seasame street is down the road. So an officer makes say 40k plus benefits to start minus overtime. So now we are looking at least 70k . Who pays for that? Currently if 1 officer is responsible for 200 miles radius and we want to reduce that to say 50 miles that would be 4 times the eco's we have now. I currently pay almost 100 dollars a year and would not be willing to pay 4 times that. The higher expense of a license would increase the amount of poaching imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Lucky Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I am not justifying what they did. I just think you gotta look at bigger picture and what it would really cost to prosecute a person for poaching. Not much. I personally find poachers, trespassers, ect. to be great bullsh** artist when confronted in the woods. They are more scared by an individual who is not strong armed by paperwork and not sure who you are. Big paul said it correct, when the community sticks together the poachers will find somewhere else to go cause conflict with the community is worse than it is with the law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 17 minutes ago, Just Lucky said: So an officer makes say 40k plus benefits to start minus overtime. So now we are looking at least 70k . Who pays for that? Currently if 1 officer is responsible for 200 miles radius and we want to reduce that to say 50 miles that would be 4 times the eco's we have now. I currently pay almost 100 dollars a year and would not be willing to pay 4 times that. The higher expense of a license would increase the amount of poaching imo. Is a 40+ grand a year salary that far off the charts? Somehow doesn’t seem like enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vizslas Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 would you pay $200 for your license. i bet most people would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Lucky Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, vizslas said: would you pay $200 for your license. i bet most people would. Nope. I pay enough in taxes already. A hunting license is just that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Lucky Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, vizslas said: would you pay $200 for your license. i bet most people would. Nope. I pay enough in taxes already. A hunting license is just that. And 40k plus good benefits isnt a bad for starting pay. Benefits are an added cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I would pay 500$+ if the laws already on the books would be enforced!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Lucky Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 34 minutes ago, Buckmaster7600 said: I would pay 500$+ if the laws already on the books would be enforced! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk And at that cost how many fewer hunters would we have? Or perhaps that is what some would like. A sport only for the wealthy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erussell Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Need people to turn people in instead of looking the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I'd easily pay $200 or more to hunt and fish in NY for 365 days. What we pay now is what a round of golf with lunch and beers costs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyice Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Hell yeah the license cost should be upped- I bought the lifetime sportsman 20 years ago for me and 12 years ago for my boys!!! Still my best investment to date (hence me working the rest of my life!). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdubs Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 8:02 PM, vizslas said: would you pay $200 for your license. i bet most people would. No way. The NYSRPA posted a number (I don't have it handy) of the millions of dollars that NYS earns from sportsmen and license fees. It's in the tens of millions. And yet, those NYC liberal cretians treat us like a bunch of stupid rednecks, shoving the un-SAFE Act down our throats. I don't know how any sportsmen could trust Cuomo to act in our best interests. Turn the fines collected from poachers into a substantial revenue source and you'll see the bloodsuckers in NYC ramp up enforcement in a NY minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Season Whitetail's Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Jdubs said: No way. The NYSRPA posted a number (I don't have it handy) of the millions of dollars that NYS earns from sportsmen and license fees. It's in the tens of millions. And yet, those NYC liberal cretians treat us like a bunch of stupid rednecks, shoving the un-SAFE Act down our throats. I don't know how any sportsmen could trust Cuomo to act in our best interests. Turn the fines collected from poachers into a substantial revenue source and you'll see the bloodsuckers in NYC ramp up enforcement in a NY minute. Lets not forget the fact that we cant get enough CO's to do the job they need to do............One cop for a 200 mile run means very few people ever get caught without them getting a tip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 WowSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkeyfeathers Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 12 minutes ago, The_Real_TCIII said: Wow Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Pffft Every weekend in jail during hunting season ?! He still has Monday through Friday to hunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I wish he were Tom BradySent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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