The Obama Administration Was Setting Up Gun Owners For Harassment!

[Mr VJP]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-57338546-10391695/documents-atf-used-fast-and-furious-to-make-the-case-for-gun-regulations/

[nyantler]

I heard about this yesterday... couldn't believe the balls this administration has

[wooffer]

Forget that the author of PM stated this, but it is true. If you can remember back before the gun running scheme got exposed our state Senator (Schumer) and Hillary Clinton where touting the need for stricter gun laws to prevent this. Hillary even did a photo op in Mexico showing the collection of guns in Mexico. This was on the mainstream media for all to see. The ATF even set in place special rules restricting gunshops near the border from conducting business because they were blamed for supplying these guns to Mexico.

If this was a surprise to Obama and he was truly not part of it then why hasn't he dismissed Eric Holder for breaking the law? Because Obama and Holder were part of it. If Barack ever tried to dismiss Holder, and tried him for gunrunning, Holder would sell him down the river.

Remember, even though Holder did not carry the guns across the boarder, he is culpable. Because he was aware of a criminal act and did not nothing to stop it.

[hunterman7956]

I have been aware of this since its inception and couldnt agree more with VJP all you have to do is read and listen and not have an opinion untill you hear all the facts ! Well thats my 2cents and I am standing by it !

[13BVET]

Wow. How can you knock the most decisive president we've ever had-NOT!

[k burke]

Heads should definitely roll, but I don't buy the Obama conspiracy - this "gun walking" strategy was started under Bush. From the CBS news article timeline posted above:

"CBS News reports on a second alleged ATF gunwalking operation called "Wide Receiver" in Tucson. It's also run out of the Phoenix office and dates back to at least 2008 under the Bush Administration."

[wooffer]

Yes, first one was started under Bush, but the guns actually had tracking devices installed in some and program was abandoned (stopped) when they realized that guns were escaping the ATF's tracking.

Barack comes along and figures he could use the old program to arm some cronies (fellow drug dealers) and pin blame on American gun owners.

He is the Chief Executive and is accountable irregardless if he knew or not.

All you have to do is watch Holders smug, sarcatic remarks during tetsimony to Congress to know he is protected on this one. I wonder why he refused to be sworn in if he was telling the truth?

Edited December 9, 2011 by wooffer

[k burke]

LOL - two new ones for me. Someone allowed to testify before congress without swearing in and a drug dealing President of U.S.!

[nyantler]

Yes, first one was started under Bush, but the guns actually had tracking devices installed in some and program was abandoned (stopped) when they realized that guns were escaping the ATF's tracking.

Barack comes along and figures he could use the old program to arm some cronies (fellow drug dealers) and pin blame on American gun owners.

He is the Chief Executive and is accountable irregardless if he knew or not.

All you have to do is watch Holders smug, sarcatic remarks during tetsimony to Congress to know he is protected on this one. I wonder why he refused to be sworn in if he was telling the truth?

The biggest difference is George Bush never denied knowing about it

[Mr VJP]

What saddens me most is this info was first brought to light at least 6 months ago, yet many people in America, including hunters and gun owners, refused to believe it. They still refuse to see that this situation proves we have a seriously lawless and dangerous man in the White House and he needs to be taken out of there as soon as possible. I for one, think election day is too far away.

If Nixon was attacked for merely claiming he didn't know about a break in at a hotel room, how can anyone not scream for impeachment when our president's zealous anti gun agenda, got an American LEO killed?

Seems some people hate the Right in America so much, they would allow Obama to do anything he wants, as long as it attacks the Right. United States? Not any more.

[Lever action]

I read through all these post and cannot believe the number of members on here that support Obama.

[13BVET]

I read through all these post and cannot believe the number of members on here that support Obama.

Definitely NOT me! Although, I wonder how any mere mortal can question the Messiah!!!

[13BVET]

My hero!

[wooffer]

Here is a link that tells more fo the story, http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=7198

You can join the NRA at a reduced rate through brownells.com, $25.00 instead of $35.00

As stated earlier Barack is responsible for the gun sales to Mexico, he is the Chief Executive and is responsible for the actions of his underlings. The program was STOPPED under Bush when found that guns were escaping surveilance.

[Grouse]

Obama took an operation that Bush tried, then rejected, and corrupted it into an operation designed to give credence to the Democrat's plan to reinstate the Clinton Assault Weapons ban. There is more than enough evidence available to show Obama knew about it as well.

Long before this Fast & Furious disaster came to light in the media he was quoted by Sarah Brady saying he told her was working on her desire to reinstate that ban "under the radar", but needed more time. What intelligent American can't see the connection there?

[Grouse]

Well, it looks like the Republicans are going to sell out the victims for political gain and Holder will be able to walk over the graves of the dead LEO's scott free. There is no Justice in America if this actually happens!

http://www.westernjo...nd-white-house/

Place John Boehner among the most disgraceful and despicable traitors to the American public in our nation’s history.

Edited February 11, 2012 by Grouse

[WNYBuckHunter]

Neither party is there to do anything in our best interest, everything happens for their benefit, and the benefit of their lobbiests. Have no doubt, the people dont have control any more.

[Grouse]

More details from the congressional committee running the investigation that shows what the Obama Administration intended with this operation. The Democrats hate guns, that's for sure.

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/209711-rep-paul-gosar-r-ariz

[wooffer]

I read through all these post and cannot believe the number of members on here that support Obama.

If they read about him and stopped listening to his nightly "press releases" (aka evening news) they would think differently. Typically a democrat will always support a democrat, even if the person is a criminal. Marion Barry was the perfect example.