FLW cheating

[Adkhunter1590]

Anyone ever catch a pro angler cheating? My buddies did up in Champlain this year. Tyler Stewart using a friend to hold spots for him a hour south of the tournament starting point.

 

They were gonna let it go until another angler Scott Martin made a video on YouTube that had a chat with Tyler Stewart. In the video Tyler claims my buddies were throwing boulders at him and all this crazy stuff. Pretty unreal the lengths some people will go to create drama for social media attention.

 

Bad part for these guys is my buddies have everything on video. When we started calling out Scott and Tyler for lying, they deleted all our comments and blocked us. My buddies are real pissed now and went to the FLW with their videos. Hopefully they do something about it because we all know holding spots is against the rules...

 

Here’s one video of Tyler pulling in and his spot holder picking up anchor starting to get out of the way.

 

And here’s Scott martins video with all the lies. The guy wasn’t even there but calls my buddies right out saying he’d be giving out chokeholds hahahaha

 

 

I’d say look at all the comments between us and Scott but he went and deleted all of us once we start posting the video proof on there lol.

[BizCT]

Sounds interesting. I'm at work so can't watch the video, but what do you mean by "holding spots"? Like he had a boat go and anchor in a good bass spot so he could find it quick?

[Adkhunter1590]

Sounds interesting. I'm at work so can't watch the video, but what do you mean by "holding spots"? Like he had a boat go and anchor in a good bass spot so he could find it quick?

Yes exactly. There’s a culvert pipe that runs under a railroad connecting Champlain to a small pond/marsh. It’s a good spot and we fish it every time we go up there. A lot of the pros have found out about it in the last couple years so they hammer it hard.

The day before the video, my buddies were up there fishing on both sides with their boat pulled up into shore. Tyler came in and asked my buddies to leave so he could fish it. They had been waiting all morning for the other pros to leave so they politely said sorry man but we just got here so we aren’t going to leave but your more than welcome to fish along side us. Tyler didn’t like that and neither did his camera crew who told them to “have some respect” lol. Tyler did end up casting all around them anyways but my buddies had no issue with it.

Next morning my buddies try to get up there early, 45 mins before the tournament even started, and they start a hour north of there. When they arrived they found a guy just sitting there anchored right in front of the culvert. The guy wasn’t fishing just sitting there staring at the shore. So my buddies fished around far out to see what this guy was up to. Over a hour later in comes Tyler. As Tyler pulls up the guy who was anchored lifts anchor and pulls away. This same guy was following Tyler around the entire weekend, we have the pics to prove he was never far from Tyler other than early morning spot holding.

My buddies were fully planning on letting it all go until we came across Scott Martins video. A lot of lies and threats to choke hold these “rude” locals touched a nerve. And to watch as Scott deletes all our videos and pics proving who’s wrong in this situation just confirms our story.

[ApexerER]

Wow, that's BS......Hope they do something about it....

[BigVal]

Classic basshole moves

 

[Adkhunter1590]

Wow, that's BS......Hope they do something about it....

Waiting to see what the FLW is gonna do. We sent them the videos and pics. Only response we got so far is “we are aware of the situation and it is being reviewed by the proper authorities”.

All they gotta do is hook Tyler up to a polygraph and ask a few questions and it’s game over for him. I know they have polygraphs on hand as it’s in their rule book saying they have to consent to one anytime cheating allegations come up...

[BizCT]

Good luck man! It seems Bass tourneys are losing their popularity. I saw the bass master prize money is way down from a few years ago.

My friend Mike won one in the early 2000’s




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[Skillet]

Few things sweeter than throwing a nice bass on a stringer, in front of a basshole.

Rare opportunity, but I highly recommend it.

[Adkhunter1590]

Good luck man! It seems Bass tourneys are losing their popularity. I saw the bass master prize money is way down from a few years ago.

My friend Mike won one in the early 2000’s




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I too notice the popularity decreasing. Might have something to do with the fact that it’s hard to compete unless you have a $80k boat and another $20k of electronics, almost $8k just to sign up for FLW tournament year plus thousands more per round. It’s a big chunk of money to lay out just to wet a line.

[Marion]

Good luck man! It seems Bass tourneys are losing their popularity. I saw the bass master prize money is way down from a few years ago.

My friend Mike won one in the early 2000’s




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You are not friends with Ike you lie!

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[moog5050]

2 minutes ago, The Jerkman said:

You are not friends with Ike you lie!

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I believe him.  Note the straight brim.  Biz, this guy and ricky fowler (the "Crew").

[grampy]

I have done local club tournaments on and off for many years. And have even seen cheating at that level, for a measly few hundred dollars to win. So I'm not surprised at all, that the "pro's" are bending the rules, with many thousands of dollars on the line. Too bad really. 

And just because you are fishing a tourney, that does not give you exclusive fishing rights for wherever you want to fish!!! If another angler is on a spot you want to fish, weather they are fishing in the tourney or not, you should just move along!!!  

One of the main reasons for me not fishing bass tournaments like I used to, is the couple guys in every tournament who think they should have everyone bow down to them, because THEY are fishing for money. Sorry, but that's not the way it works!! 

Show some respect???  You need to give some to get some bud....

Some of these guy's give the rest of us bassholes a bad rap.

[Adkhunter1590]

I have done local club tournaments on and off for many years. And have even seen cheating at that level, for a measly few hundred dollars to win. So I'm not surprised at all, that the "pro's" are bending the rules, with many thousands of dollars on the line. Too bad really. 
And just because you are fishing a tourney, that does not give you exclusive fishing rights for wherever you want to fish!!! If another angler is on a spot you want to fish, weather they are fishing in the tourney or not, you should just move along!!!  
One of the main reasons for me not fishing bass tournaments like I used to, is the couple guys in every tournament who think they should have everyone bow down to them, because THEY are fishing for money. Sorry, but that's not the way it works!! 
Show some respect???  You need to give some to get some bud....
Some of these guy's give the rest of us bassholes a bad rap.

Fully agreed. I love fishing Champlain and do so very often. But the weekends that a tournament is running has become almost a nightmare. These guys are flying all over the place with their big engines and acting like the lake is now theirs. We have maybe 4-5 spots that we go to on a regular basis, and if we see someone already in there we don’t pull in and demand they move we just go fish another spot. It’s a huge lake it’s not like these guys can’t find another good spot. With all the electronics they have, shouldn’t be too hard to find the fish. In Scott’s video there he talks about being able to see fish laying on their sides on the bottom...first off, I didn’t even know the gizmos had become so good you could tell if a fish was laying on its side or not, secondly, if that’s the case, shouldn’t it be pretty simple to find another spot with good fish?

[BizCT]

22 minutes ago, The Jerkman said:

You are not friends with Ike you lie!

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For that moment at Rockland CC hunting/fishing expo show, I was!

[left field]

Bass guys ...

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[Robhuntandfish]

1 hour ago, Biz-R-OWorld said:

Good luck man! It seems Bass tourneys are losing their popularity. I saw the bass master prize money is way down from a few years ago.

My friend Mike won one in the early 2000’s




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Major league fishing has taken out the bassmasters. Everyone likes the format a lot better.  Most guys have jumped over to it and some of the pros have partnership with the new program. 

Same as in everything good guys and cheaters in everything.  

Biz - I think Ike is interesting but a lot of guys don't like him at all....lol. 

[Robhuntandfish]

I used to fish tournaments but got so I didn't care for them quick. Got 4th a few times. But didn't like some of the people's attitudes and didn't enjoy fishing for what it was. A getaway and realizing and fun. Making it competitive made it different.  One time I was fishing a tourney and kept getting walleyes and really wanted to fill the box with walleye!  

Plus I like to fish with my buddies and tourney fishing just didn't allow for that often .