9jNYstarkOH Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said: There is no QAnon equivalent left of center. They go by antifa and they are a joke just like qanon but only antifa is real enough to cause massive damage across the country. Edited January 20, 2021 by 9jNYstarkOH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, 9jNYstarkOH said: Where have you been all summer as Democrats condoned and encouraged this behavior. Again we as a nation are divided and a lot of people are okay when it is their side but act shocked when it comes from the other side. The riots where not okay all summer and storming the capital was not okay on the 6th. I am okay with both groups of protesters just not the bad actors in either group and I am not okay with only one group of bad actors being held accountable. Nope, wrong again. No democratic leader condoned violence or rioting, certainly not the way Trump did. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northcountryman Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said: There is no QAnon equivalent left of center. Are you saying that QAnon is a right of center belief system/conspiracy then? I believe that it is considered to be embraced more by the extreme far right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9jNYstarkOH Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, Versatile_Hunter said: Nope, wrong again. No democratic leader condoned violence or rioting, certainly not the way Trump did. You have to be joking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northcountryman Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said: Nope, wrong again. No democratic leader condoned violence or rioting, certainly not the way Trump did. Not true. I can pull up severa lexamples in which they did and again, Trump did not condone violence or rioting, though, -and as I;ve stated before- he was very irresponsible IMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Northcountryman said: Not true. I can pull up severa lexamples in which they did and again, Trump did not condone violence or rioting, though, -and as I;ve stated before- he was very irresponsible IMHO. Quote from Fox: McConnell addressed the insurrection during a floor speech Tuesday afternoon and said Trump "provoked" the mob that tried to use "fear and violence" to stop the Joint Session of Congress from certifying President-elect Joe Biden's win. "The mob was fed lies," McConnell said. "They were provoked by the president and other powerful people." https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-trump-capitol-riot-senate-weighs-another-impeachment-trial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9jNYstarkOH Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said: Nope, wrong again. No democratic leader condoned violence or rioting, certainly not the way Trump did. Is allowing rioters to set up autonomous zones and calling them block parties and the summer of love after they burnt police stations condoning rioters? Edited January 20, 2021 by 9jNYstarkOH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northcountryman Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Doesnt matter; according to Supreme Court ruling, his speech should be protected and he cannot be impeached and he should not be silenced because of it. What is your argument with your post, though? That theres near unanimous agreement that he condoned and provoked it? Your response Doesnt appear to pertain to my post that you quoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9jNYstarkOH Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) Here was their chance and Democrats voted procedural action to not have to condemn the riots. Please give it a read and explain why they would not vote on it. And as the saying goes if you don’t condemn racism you condone racism it is the same with riots and I condemn both. You should not find the 6th anymore shocking than the riots of all summer don’t let your partisan emotions cloud your judgement. https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hres1023/BILLS-116hres1023ih.pdf Edited January 20, 2021 by 9jNYstarkOH 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9jNYstarkOH Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BowmanMike said: There was a video of don jr counting down as the rioters were about to storm the Capitol,and he looked pretty happy about it. I think the words used were t minus 60 ... And papa trump.was in the background watching things unfold on live TV and doing nothing...for hours.. Could you post up this video because the only video I can find of the family was before the speech If this is real in which I highly doubt I would like to see it as if this is real it might change mine and others position and if not might help you change yours. Edited January 20, 2021 by 9jNYstarkOH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, 9jNYstarkOH said: Is allowing rioters to set up autonomous zones and calling them block parties and the summer of love after they burnt police stations condoning rioters? Right, Democratic leaders disavowed this, especially at levels approaching the presidency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowmanMike Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 hours ago, 9jNYstarkOH said: Where have you been all summer as Democrats condoned and encouraged this behavior. Again we as a nation are divided and a lot of people are okay when it is their side but act shocked when it comes from the other side. The riots where not okay all summer and storming the capital was not okay on the 6th. I am okay with both groups of protesters just not the bad actors in either group and I am not okay with only one group of bad actors being held accountable. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJzs0zXgjdC/?igshid=c5n089l9zo9d Let me know if this link works... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9jNYstarkOH Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BowmanMike said: https://www.instagram.com/p/CJzs0zXgjdC/?igshid=c5n089l9zo9d Let me know if this link works... Yes it does but the fact is this was before the speech and capital storming. You can fact check it if you don’t trust me but 100% before the speech and as such you are taking it out of context thinking it is a video of after again this might change your position. Edited January 20, 2021 by 9jNYstarkOH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northcountryman Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, BowmanMike said: https://www.instagram.com/p/CJzs0zXgjdC/?igshid=c5n089l9zo9d Let me know if this link works... Yup , I agree, doesn’t prove anything as far as I’m concerned . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDose Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 hours ago, SportsmanNH said: They are NOT private companies . They are public companies as they are listed and traded on the stock market as such . You have to admit that it was total bias to the left at all media companies. Things need to change. We CANNOT have our country run by Google, Twitter, Facebook , Apple , and Amazon. This monopoly needs to be blown up . Even the national news stations , ABC , CBS , and NBC were totally off their rocker when reporting the news. I would actually watch an event live , and then when it was reported by the big news anchors , Stephanopoulos , Muir , etc , I would sit back and scratch my head wondering what they were talking about . What they were reporting didn't even resemble what actually happened . I guess honest reporting of the actual news like Walter Cronkite is long gone. I agree. I meant to say that they were non-government and not news organizations, so they are being allowed to censor. The various news agencies clearly censor via their spin. Most are actually op-ed at this point. I use this as an example of media bias reporting. An orphanage is on fire with 12 children trapped. DJT enters and rescues 6 children to safety. Before he can get in for the remaining 6 the building collapses before his eyes. FOX News: DJT bravely and without concern for his own lif enters a burning building to rescue 6 orphans. Unfortunately, another 6 perished before he could rescue them. CNN: DJT cowardly watches as six orphans die in a fire, when 6 others were rescued only moments before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northcountryman Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 31 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said: Right, Democratic leaders disavowed this, especially at levels approaching the presidency. Everything I’ve seen and read indicates that they did not ; Can you prove it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northcountryman Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, DoubleDose said: I agree. I meant to say that they were non-government and not news organizations, so they are being allowed to censor. The various news agencies clearly censor via their spin. Most are actually op-ed at this point. I use this as an example of media bias reporting. An orphanage is on fire with 12 children trapped. DJT enters and rescues 6 children to safety. Before he can get in for the remaining 6 the building collapses before his eyes. FOX News: DJT bravely and without concern for his own lif enters a burning building to rescue 6 orphans. Unfortunately, another 6 perished before he could rescue them. CNN: DJT cowardly watches as six orphans die in a fire, when 6 others were rescued only moments before. Excellent analogy , I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, DoubleDose said: I agree. I meant to say that they were non-government and not news organizations, so they are being allowed to censor. The various news agencies clearly censor via their spin. Most are actually op-ed at this point. I use this as an example of media bias reporting. An orphanage is on fire with 12 children trapped. DJT enters and rescues 6 children to safety. Before he can get in for the remaining 6 the building collapses before his eyes. FOX News: DJT bravely and without concern for his own lif enters a burning building to rescue 6 orphans. Unfortunately, another 6 perished before he could rescue them. CNN: DJT cowardly watches as six orphans die in a fire, when 6 others were rescued only moments before. Not quite. For your analogy to hold, Trump first lights the building on fire... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9jNYstarkOH Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 37 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said: Right, Democratic leaders disavowed this, especially at levels approaching the presidency. This summer of love comment was from Democrat mayor Jenny Durkan of Seattle the 22nd largest city in the country on cnn. Please tell me which Democratic leader disavowed this before it was harming their poll numbers. Please address why the Democratic majority would not vote on hr1023 to condemn the rioters, don’t skip over the facts with more open ended bs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Northcountryman said: Everything I’ve seen and read indicates that they did not ; Can you prove it ? https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/13/fact-check-democrats-have-condemned-violence-linked-protests/3317862001/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9jNYstarkOH Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/13/fact-check-democrats-have-condemned-violence-linked-protests/3317862001/ Again as poll numbers where slipping this article comes out riots started on May 25th why not vote on hr1023 than on June 25th Edited January 20, 2021 by 9jNYstarkOH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoots100 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Versatile_Hunter said: Quote from Fox: McConnell addressed the insurrection during a floor speech Tuesday afternoon and said Trump "provoked" the mob that tried to use "fear and violence" to stop the Joint Session of Congress from certifying President-elect Joe Biden's win. "The mob was fed lies," McConnell said. "They were provoked by the president and other powerful people." https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-trump-capitol-riot-senate-weighs-another-impeachment-trial I thought Fox was one of those Crapitalist news sources your ilk hates, now your linking them ? McConnell is part of the swamp and he wont get his golden parachute unless he tow's the line. They have until the midterm elections and they know it, so their getting in on the action while they still can. In the end, nothing is going to happen to Trump, so the kabuki theatre Pelosi and the rest of the Dems put on was just a way for them to rile up their base and divide America even more. The capitol riot still doesn't hold a candle to the "Death + Destruction" the Dems willingly provoked and funded during 2020. Their so vain, they let the country burn to get at Trump. It's going to be a violent time for the Dems in 2021, when they find that their not going to be able to control the militant socialists that were doing their bidding, as those socialists are more ruthless then they'll ever be. Watching them being eaten by their spawn is going to be worth Biden being elected president. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9jNYstarkOH Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, DoubleDose said: I agree. I meant to say that they were non-government and not news organizations, so they are being allowed to censor. The various news agencies clearly censor via their spin. Most are actually op-ed at this point. I use this as an example of media bias reporting. An orphanage is on fire with 12 children trapped. DJT enters and rescues 6 children to safety. Before he can get in for the remaining 6 the building collapses before his eyes. FOX News: DJT bravely and without concern for his own lif enters a burning building to rescue 6 orphans. Unfortunately, another 6 perished before he could rescue them. CNN: DJT cowardly watches as six orphans die in a fire, when 6 others were rescued only moments before. Look this up and read articles from the last 4 years and then some from 1991 and compare and you will find a perfect analogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9jNYstarkOH Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Shoots100 said: I thought Fox was one of those Crapitalist news sources your ilk hates, now your linking them ? McConnell is part of the swamp and he wont get his golden parachute unless he tow's the line. They have until the midterm elections and they know it, so their getting in on the action while they still can. In the end, nothing is going to happen to Trump, so the kabuki theatre Pelosi and the rest of the Dems put on was just a way for them to rile up their base and divide America even more. The capitol riot still doesn't hold a candle to the "Death + Destruction" the Dems willingly provoked and funded during 2020. Their so vain, they let the country burn to get at Trump. It's going to be a violent time for the Dems in 2021, when they find that their not going to be able to control the militant socialists that were doing their bidding, as those socialists are more ruthless then they'll ever be. Watching them being eaten by their spawn is going to be worth Biden being elected president. Swamp=uniparty that pretend to fight each other as they steal from their constituents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowmanMike Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 8 hours ago, 9jNYstarkOH said: Yes it does but the fact is this was before the speech and capital storming. You can fact check it if you don’t trust me but 100% before the speech and as such you are taking it out of context thinking it is a video of after again this might change your position. Ah,my mistake. That doesn't change my mind about how the whole thing went down though. And i will mention it again,storming the capitol and protesting police violence are two very different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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